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It Certainly Looks Like One

Posted By: Samuel L Freedom
Date: Friday, 19 December 2003, at 5:53 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Should call it the SCAM MACHINE rather than YMMSS. (john woodworth)

> Hi Barry,

> If you know any facts which point to anything untoward about ymmss, or
> that it is, in any way, a scam or fraudlant, I invite you to post that
> information.

> In fact, in its 18 months of existence, only two people have left the
> program, and everyone continues to get paid exactly as promised. Where's
> the scam?

> Regards,

> john

Hi John,

Let's break this down a bit for clarity sake. The truth is, usually, scams go undetected, and that's how they make their creators rich. They go undetected because they prey on people who are craving to be rich and/or famous--aka power and status. You can't fault a guy for thinking something is a scam if it has all the outward characteristics of typical "pyramid schemes." My experience with scammers is that they will first try everything in their scammer handbook to convince people that they are legitimate. When they run out of techniques and haven't pacified the opposition, they become a little more like the predators they are...in other words, the nicey-nice mask gets peeled off and the criminal beneath it begins to try new tactics to neutralize the questioning.

It isn't black or white, either. Some people who fall for the scam see their only way to regain their money is to perpetuate the scam onto others. Little research or investigation is done into what they are really peddling because they're only interested in regaining their money, not in finding out they've been swindled and are perpetuating it.

SO...I took a look at the site and all I could find was information showing me tables of $40/wk purchases somehow snowballing into $320 revenues. Who wouldn't want that to happen to them? If it were THAT simple, then where is there a CLEARLY stated explanation, in SIMPLE terms, as to how this thing works? Scammers rely on naivete and/or people's greed and envy, so usually there is no explanation page because only intelligent people would want to be sure they weren't getting scammed.

Now listen, YOU are the one advertising a site. It doesn't matter if it's yours or a friend's or an unknown saint. It's your responsibility to see that potential BUYERS have all the information they need to feel safe that their investment really does have a chance of appreciating. And it's just poor business skills to blame or dodge a doubter for his natural, healthy, skepticism.

If you or your friend want someone to buy in, then, like good salespeople, you ought to be ready to answer questions.

So where's the information on how and why this thing works, and is legal?

Thanks,

Eric

Messages In This Thread

After 18 months of watching........
john woodworth -- Friday, 19 December 2003, at 3:41 a.m.
Should call it the SCAM MACHINE rather than YMMSS. *DNO*
Barry Stein -- Friday, 19 December 2003, at 4:34 a.m.
Re: Should call it the SCAM MACHINE rather than YMMSS.
john woodworth -- Friday, 19 December 2003, at 4:52 a.m.
It Certainly Looks Like One
Samuel L Freedom -- Friday, 19 December 2003, at 5:53 a.m.
Everyone is a winner and no losers?
Barry Stein -- Friday, 19 December 2003, at 5:52 a.m.
Re: Everyone is a winner and no losers?
john woodworth -- Saturday, 20 December 2003, at 3:30 a.m.
Re: Everyone is a winner and no losers?
Josh Anderson -- Saturday, 20 December 2003, at 9:46 p.m.
Re: Everyone is a winner and no losers?
john woodworth -- Saturday, 20 December 2003, at 11:53 p.m.
After 36 months of watching.... the whole thing crumbled
Josh Anderson -- Friday, 19 December 2003, at 7:03 a.m.
Re: After 36 months of watching.... the whole thing crumbled
Samuel L Freedom -- Friday, 19 December 2003, at 7:26 a.m.
Re: After 36 months of watching.... the whole thing crumbled
Dave Westwood -- Saturday, 6 March 2004, at 3:07 p.m.
Re: After 36 months of watching.... the whole thing crumbled
newguy -- Friday, 9 July 2004, at 12:40 a.m.
Re: After 36 months of watching.... the whole thing crumbled
john woodworth -- Friday, 9 July 2004, at 5:13 a.m.
What Is and Isn't A pyramid Scam - a SIMPLE definition
Jon Andersen -- Friday, 9 July 2004, at 10:54 a.m.
Re: What Is and Isn't A pyramid Scam - a SIMPLE definition
john woodworth -- Friday, 9 July 2004, at 5:11 p.m.
The real test... contact the SEC and FTC and ask www.SEC.gov www.FTC.gov *DNO*
Josh Anderson -- Friday, 9 July 2004, at 6:54 p.m.
FTC agrees with me
Jon Andersen -- Friday, 9 July 2004, at 7:15 p.m.
You are correct Jon
Josh Anderson -- Friday, 9 July 2004, at 10:59 p.m.
Ponzi at it's best
Josh Anderson -- Friday, 9 July 2004, at 11:17 p.m.
Re: Ponzi at it's best
steve -- Saturday, 10 July 2004, at 8:29 p.m.
Re: After 36 months of watching.... the whole thing crumbled
Chris Bailey -- Sunday, 11 July 2004, at 6:21 a.m.
Re: After 36 months of watching.... the whole thing crumbled
Stephen Rose -- Tuesday, 19 October 2004, at 3:57 p.m.
The Bad News & Good News in 2005
Kevin Fields -- Wednesday, 5 January 2005, at 11:49 a.m.
Re: The Bad News & Good News in 2005
Stephen Rose -- Wednesday, 5 January 2005, at 12:25 p.m.
Re: The Bad News & Good News in 2005
Daniel Rose -- Thursday, 26 May 2005, at 2:21 a.m.
Re: The Bad News & Good News in 2005
Daniel Meyers -- Thursday, 26 May 2005, at 2:22 a.m.
Re: The Bad News & Good News in 2005
Stephen Rose -- Friday, 27 May 2005, at 7:32 p.m.
Still Looks Like PAID FFA PONZI to me. *DNO*
Josh Anderson -- Friday, 27 May 2005, at 7:05 p.m.
Re: After 18 months of watching........
JD -- Friday, 29 July 2005, at 3:32 p.m.
Re: After 18 months of watching........
Stephen Rose -- Wednesday, 8 March 2006, at 2:48 p.m.
Re: After 18 months of watching........
steve-o -- Tuesday, 21 March 2006, at 1:20 a.m.
Re: After 18 months of watching........
Casandra -- Saturday, 17 February 2007, at 9:20 p.m.
Re: After 18 months of watching........
Casandra -- Saturday, 3 March 2007, at 4:52 a.m.

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