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Re: Only ONE of these three is currently doing the job...

Posted By: Pamela Heywood
Date: Friday, 2 April 2004, at 9:02 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Only ONE of these three is currently doing the job... (Michael Green)

I'd just like to back up everything that Michael has said and also put in my vote for Aweber, who I have already been using for three years or more.

They really are the best value for money, since they are the one most likely to actually deliver your mail. I do not know anyone else who has the *clout* to be dealing direct with AOL's techs, which they do.

I wrote a review about them last year that goes into the problem of filtering and non delivery and, how Aweber is the one to combat this, plus some other, not so obvious advantages, which you can access here:
http://www.pamela-heywood.com/reviews/aweber.html

They have added a heap of features since then. The latest, which gives you the capability of automation between multiple lists (user joins one list and can be added or subtracted from another list at the same time: i.e. converted from suspect to prospect, or prospect to customer, etc.), brings their offering into line with other services costing $50 a month and more.

Pamela Heywood

> All,

> It's absolutely true that things are nowhere near as straightforward as
> they used to be when it comes to Autoresponders.

> At one time you could choose any responder, entirely based on the features
> they offer and it would do the job of delivering your mail.

> But recent research has demonstrated that many commercial autoresponders
> are now failing to a lesser or greater extent. In fact my personal
> previous favorite (which was ProAutoResponder) is now only getting through
> around 19% of emails it sends. That's appalling.

> I wrote to ProAutoResponder and pointed out that problems with its
> delivery now extended to anyone with a RoadRunner (rr) email address and
> less surprisingly all Hotmail address, plus many others. They came back
> with an email which basically said it was a fact of life. Time to leave
> then :-(

> After a great deal of research, including speaking with ARP3 (which is a
> great script which runs on your own server), I eventually moved all my
> services (well I'm nearly there) to aWeber.

> Why this particular autoresponder?

> Because they maintain the best possible relationships with ISPs and
> through their founder Tom Kulzer, they are still delivering 85 - 90% of
> all the mail you send.

> Why didn't I go for setting up the mail on my own server using ARP3 or
> similar.

> Ultimately because I recognized that with a busy autoresponder series (in
> fact one for nearly all of my 16 toolkits), that I couldn't effectively
> guard against someone adding a bunch of email address and my server
> eventually being blacklisted for spam.

> In effect then, I'm happy to pay for someone else to handle these daily
> negotiations with ISPs and leave me to write the good marketing material
> and that's why I've gone with aWeber.

> Not the cheapest autoresponder service out there, but it's total quality
> through and through. I imagine I'll be with them for some time.

> Here's my link with aWeber http://www.howtocorp.com/aweber

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Messages In This Thread

Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder
Richard -- Thursday, 1 April 2004, at 7:18 a.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder
David Geer -- Thursday, 1 April 2004, at 12:17 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder
David -- Thursday, 1 April 2004, at 7:38 p.m.
ADMIN! Re: Only ONE of these three is currently doing the job...
Michael Green -- Thursday, 1 April 2004, at 9:07 p.m.
Re: Only ONE of these three is currently doing the job...
Matt Garrett -- Thursday, 1 April 2004, at 10:34 p.m.
Re: I have to agree with Michael ...
Mike Merz -- Thursday, 1 April 2004, at 10:34 p.m.
Delivery percentages
Trevor Clarke -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 12:16 a.m.
Re: Delivery percentages
Tom Kulzer -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 4:44 p.m.
ADMIN! Re: Delivery percentages - thanks Tom
Michael Green -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 5:14 p.m.
Re: Delivery percentages + a question ??
Paul White -- Saturday, 3 April 2004, at 11:28 p.m.
Re: Delivery percentages
Trevor Clarke -- Saturday, 3 April 2004, at 2:04 a.m.
Re: Delivery percentages
Doug Champigny -- Saturday, 3 April 2004, at 9:27 p.m.
Re: Delivery percentages
Tom Kulzer -- Monday, 5 April 2004, at 2:06 p.m.
Thanks, Tom!
Doug Champigny -- Monday, 5 April 2004, at 3:04 p.m.
Re: Thanks, Tom!
Tom Kulzer -- Monday, 5 April 2004, at 3:16 p.m.
Re: Thanks, Tom!
Doug Champigny -- Monday, 5 April 2004, at 4:02 p.m.
Re: Thanks, Tom!
Tom Kulzer -- Monday, 5 April 2004, at 4:40 p.m.
Re: Thanks, Tom!
Doug Champigny -- Monday, 5 April 2004, at 4:56 p.m.
Re: Thanks, Tom! and Corey Rudhl
Chris Lang -- Saturday, 17 April 2004, at 4:42 p.m.
Where purchased opt-in leads can be safe
Trevor Clarke -- Monday, 5 April 2004, at 5:33 p.m.
Re: Where purchased opt-in leads can be safe
Tom Kulzer -- Monday, 5 April 2004, at 5:46 p.m.
Re: Where purchased opt-in leads can be safe
Trevor Clarke -- Tuesday, 6 April 2004, at 1:01 a.m.
Re: Where purchased opt-in leads can be safe
Tom Kulzer -- Tuesday, 6 April 2004, at 6:52 p.m.
Re: Where purchased opt-in leads can be safe
Trevor Clarke -- Tuesday, 6 April 2004, at 9:31 p.m.
Re: Delivery percentages
Cheryl Gonzalez -- Friday, 9 April 2004, at 3:43 a.m.
Re: Delivery percentages
Tom Kulzer -- Friday, 9 April 2004, at 2:05 p.m.
Re: Delivery percentages
Julia -- Monday, 28 June 2004, at 4:54 p.m.
Re: Delivery percentages
Tom Kulzer -- Monday, 28 June 2004, at 5:13 p.m.
Re: Delivery percentages
Julia -- Monday, 28 June 2004, at 6:08 p.m.
Re: Delivery percentages
Ray -- Thursday, 1 July 2004, at 11:17 p.m.
Looking for Bob
Howard Anderson -- Tuesday, 23 August 2005, at 2:32 a.m.
Aweber's bold deliverability claims (was Re: Delivery percentages)
Simon Grabowski -- Wednesday, 8 March 2006, at 8:22 p.m.
Re: Aweber's bold deliverability claims (was Re: Delivery percentages)
Chris Upson -- Sunday, 12 March 2006, at 8:20 p.m.
Re: Getresponse bold deliverability claims. 99.45%? Seems bogus if they think AWeber's is bogus.
Tom Kulzer -- Monday, 13 March 2006, at 2:24 a.m.
Re: Aweber bold deliverability claims.
Simon Grabowski -- Saturday, 8 April 2006, at 12:47 p.m.
GetResponse Stalking Aweber?
Chris Dudley -- Saturday, 8 April 2006, at 8:57 p.m.
Re: Aweber bold deliverability claims.
Simon Grabowski -- Saturday, 8 April 2006, at 10:29 p.m.
Re: Aweber bold deliverability claims.
Roger Haeske -- Wednesday, 12 April 2006, at 8:42 p.m.
Re: Only ONE of these three is currently doing the job...
Pamela Heywood -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 9:02 a.m.
Re: Considering using a script on your server? Prepare to educate yourself on the following items..
Tom Kulzer -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 5:05 p.m.
Re: Only ONE of these three is currently doing the job...
Jim Lodwig -- Sunday, 9 April 2006, at 3:51 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder
Steve Yakim -- Saturday, 3 April 2004, at 9:49 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder
Ed Y -- Thursday, 1 April 2004, at 11:03 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder
Tom Kulzer -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 3:46 p.m.
Awesome thread...
Mike Mann -- Saturday, 3 April 2004, at 5:31 a.m.
How about Robot Reply?
Anthony Fesalbon -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 5:20 a.m.
Re: How about Robot Reply?
William Smith -- Thursday, 29 December 2005, at 6:27 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder
Gary Ambrose -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 7:06 a.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder
Robert Shields -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 11:02 a.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder
David -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 11:13 a.m.
This is a critical choice...
Fraser Neilson -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 1:55 p.m.
Re: AutoResponders - Could Someone Please Tell Me... ?
Marty Nicholas -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 11:25 a.m.
Royal Responder beats them all ... hands down...
Thom Reece -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 11:45 a.m.
Re:
Chris Lang -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 2:44 p.m.
Michael - "How many subs did you lose?"
Travis U. -- Saturday, 3 April 2004, at 10:28 p.m.
Re: Michael - "How many subs did you lose?"
William Smith -- Thursday, 29 December 2005, at 6:24 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder
Jim Peck -- Sunday, 4 April 2004, at 1:14 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder - comparison pros and cons
Trevor Clarke -- Sunday, 4 April 2004, at 6:37 p.m.
Re: 30% lose of subscribers with verified opt-in? Do you actually lose sales though...
Tom Kulzer -- Monday, 5 April 2004, at 2:26 p.m.
Re: 30% loss : But who made the ISPs our big brother?
RIchard Keir -- Tuesday, 6 April 2004, at 5:52 a.m.
Re: 30% loss : But who made the ISPs our big brother?
Gary Ambrose -- Tuesday, 6 April 2004, at 8:43 a.m.
Re: 30% loss : But who made the ISPs our big brother?
Tom Kulzer -- Tuesday, 6 April 2004, at 2:10 p.m.
Re: 30% loss : But who made the ISPs our big brother?
Philip Allen -- Friday, 9 April 2004, at 2:45 a.m.
Re: 30% loss : But who made the ISPs our big brother?
Tom Kulzer -- Friday, 9 April 2004, at 2:07 p.m.
Re: 30% loss : But who made the ISPs our big brother?
Cheryl Gonzalez -- Friday, 9 April 2004, at 7:23 p.m.
ISPs are our big brother!
Chris Lang -- Saturday, 17 April 2004, at 5:39 p.m.
Re: ISPs are our big brother!
Mike MacDonell -- Sunday, 30 May 2004, at 7:45 a.m.
Yes, but ...
John Glube -- Monday, 31 May 2004, at 7:18 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder - comparison pros and cons(to Trevor)
Julia -- Wednesday, 30 June 2004, at 4:11 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder - comparison pros and cons(to Trevor)
DianeM -- Wednesday, 30 June 2004, at 4:44 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder - comparison pros and cons(to Trevor)
Julia -- Wednesday, 30 June 2004, at 5:01 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder - comparison pros and cons(to Trevor)
Trevor Clarke -- Wednesday, 30 June 2004, at 5:14 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder - comparison pros and cons(to Trevor)
Julia -- Wednesday, 30 June 2004, at 6:12 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder - comparison pros and cons(to Trevor)
Julia -- Wednesday, 30 June 2004, at 6:15 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder - comparison pros and cons(to Trevor)
Trevor Clarke -- Thursday, 1 July 2004, at 2:09 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder - comparison pros and cons(to Trevor)
Aubrey Carroll -- Monday, 5 July 2004, at 11:41 p.m.

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