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Re: Considering using a script on your server? Prepare to educate yourself on the following items..

Posted By: Tom Kulzer
Date: Friday, 2 April 2004, at 5:05 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Only ONE of these three is currently doing the job... (Michael Green)

Hi Michael,

> Because they maintain the best possible relationships with ISPs and
> through their founder Tom Kulzer, they are still delivering 85 - 90% of
> all the mail you send.

Thank you Michael for the recommendation. We work very hard
to make sure our customers opt-in email is delivered.

> Why didn't I go for setting up the mail on my own server using ARP3 or
> similar.

> Ultimately because I recognized that with a busy autoresponder series (in
> fact one for nearly all of my 16 toolkits), that I couldn't effectively
> guard against someone adding a bunch of email address and my server
> eventually being blacklisted for spam.

Using script based systems you run on your own server
require a certain bit of knowledge to manage properly.
For anyone considering using such a solution be prepared
to learn about undeliverables, what SMTP response codes
are: (250, 550, 421, 553, etc...), how many bounces you
should remove AOL emails after, who to call if you get
blacklisted, how to tell if you're blacklisted, what
connection rate throttling is, what ISP's you need to
connection rate throttle, what spamcop.net is, what
information you should record to prove an opt-in request,
etc., etc., etc... The list is long and for anyone
with a sizeable list it's most definintely a full time
job.

> In effect then, I'm happy to pay for someone else to handle these daily
> negotiations with ISPs and leave me to write the good marketing material
> and that's why I've gone with aWeber.

> Not the cheapest autoresponder service out there, but it's total quality
> through and through. I imagine I'll be with them for some time.

Thanks Micheal! I agree, we're not the cheapest, but we're
also a lot less expensive than several other services in this
thread that have hidden costs for larger lists buried in their
service agreements. Always read the fine print. ;)

Sincerely,
Tom Kulzer
CEO & Founder
AWeber Communications

AWeber Unlimited Autoresponders

Messages In This Thread

Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder
Richard -- Thursday, 1 April 2004, at 7:18 a.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder
David Geer -- Thursday, 1 April 2004, at 12:17 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder
David -- Thursday, 1 April 2004, at 7:38 p.m.
ADMIN! Re: Only ONE of these three is currently doing the job...
Michael Green -- Thursday, 1 April 2004, at 9:07 p.m.
Re: Only ONE of these three is currently doing the job...
Matt Garrett -- Thursday, 1 April 2004, at 10:34 p.m.
Re: I have to agree with Michael ...
Mike Merz -- Thursday, 1 April 2004, at 10:34 p.m.
Delivery percentages
Trevor Clarke -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 12:16 a.m.
Re: Delivery percentages
Tom Kulzer -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 4:44 p.m.
ADMIN! Re: Delivery percentages - thanks Tom
Michael Green -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 5:14 p.m.
Re: Delivery percentages + a question ??
Paul White -- Saturday, 3 April 2004, at 11:28 p.m.
Re: Delivery percentages
Trevor Clarke -- Saturday, 3 April 2004, at 2:04 a.m.
Re: Delivery percentages
Doug Champigny -- Saturday, 3 April 2004, at 9:27 p.m.
Re: Delivery percentages
Tom Kulzer -- Monday, 5 April 2004, at 2:06 p.m.
Thanks, Tom!
Doug Champigny -- Monday, 5 April 2004, at 3:04 p.m.
Re: Thanks, Tom!
Tom Kulzer -- Monday, 5 April 2004, at 3:16 p.m.
Re: Thanks, Tom!
Doug Champigny -- Monday, 5 April 2004, at 4:02 p.m.
Re: Thanks, Tom!
Tom Kulzer -- Monday, 5 April 2004, at 4:40 p.m.
Re: Thanks, Tom!
Doug Champigny -- Monday, 5 April 2004, at 4:56 p.m.
Re: Thanks, Tom! and Corey Rudhl
Chris Lang -- Saturday, 17 April 2004, at 4:42 p.m.
Where purchased opt-in leads can be safe
Trevor Clarke -- Monday, 5 April 2004, at 5:33 p.m.
Re: Where purchased opt-in leads can be safe
Tom Kulzer -- Monday, 5 April 2004, at 5:46 p.m.
Re: Where purchased opt-in leads can be safe
Trevor Clarke -- Tuesday, 6 April 2004, at 1:01 a.m.
Re: Where purchased opt-in leads can be safe
Tom Kulzer -- Tuesday, 6 April 2004, at 6:52 p.m.
Re: Where purchased opt-in leads can be safe
Trevor Clarke -- Tuesday, 6 April 2004, at 9:31 p.m.
Re: Delivery percentages
Cheryl Gonzalez -- Friday, 9 April 2004, at 3:43 a.m.
Re: Delivery percentages
Tom Kulzer -- Friday, 9 April 2004, at 2:05 p.m.
Re: Delivery percentages
Julia -- Monday, 28 June 2004, at 4:54 p.m.
Re: Delivery percentages
Tom Kulzer -- Monday, 28 June 2004, at 5:13 p.m.
Re: Delivery percentages
Julia -- Monday, 28 June 2004, at 6:08 p.m.
Re: Delivery percentages
Ray -- Thursday, 1 July 2004, at 11:17 p.m.
Looking for Bob
Howard Anderson -- Tuesday, 23 August 2005, at 2:32 a.m.
Aweber's bold deliverability claims (was Re: Delivery percentages)
Simon Grabowski -- Wednesday, 8 March 2006, at 8:22 p.m.
Re: Aweber's bold deliverability claims (was Re: Delivery percentages)
Chris Upson -- Sunday, 12 March 2006, at 8:20 p.m.
Re: Getresponse bold deliverability claims. 99.45%? Seems bogus if they think AWeber's is bogus.
Tom Kulzer -- Monday, 13 March 2006, at 2:24 a.m.
Re: Aweber bold deliverability claims.
Simon Grabowski -- Saturday, 8 April 2006, at 12:47 p.m.
GetResponse Stalking Aweber?
Chris Dudley -- Saturday, 8 April 2006, at 8:57 p.m.
Re: Aweber bold deliverability claims.
Simon Grabowski -- Saturday, 8 April 2006, at 10:29 p.m.
Re: Aweber bold deliverability claims.
Roger Haeske -- Wednesday, 12 April 2006, at 8:42 p.m.
Re: Only ONE of these three is currently doing the job...
Pamela Heywood -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 9:02 a.m.
Re: Considering using a script on your server? Prepare to educate yourself on the following items..
Tom Kulzer -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 5:05 p.m.
Re: Only ONE of these three is currently doing the job...
Jim Lodwig -- Sunday, 9 April 2006, at 3:51 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder
Steve Yakim -- Saturday, 3 April 2004, at 9:49 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder
Ed Y -- Thursday, 1 April 2004, at 11:03 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder
Tom Kulzer -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 3:46 p.m.
Awesome thread...
Mike Mann -- Saturday, 3 April 2004, at 5:31 a.m.
How about Robot Reply?
Anthony Fesalbon -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 5:20 a.m.
Re: How about Robot Reply?
William Smith -- Thursday, 29 December 2005, at 6:27 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder
Gary Ambrose -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 7:06 a.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder
Robert Shields -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 11:02 a.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder
David -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 11:13 a.m.
This is a critical choice...
Fraser Neilson -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 1:55 p.m.
Re: AutoResponders - Could Someone Please Tell Me... ?
Marty Nicholas -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 11:25 a.m.
Royal Responder beats them all ... hands down...
Thom Reece -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 11:45 a.m.
Re:
Chris Lang -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 2:44 p.m.
Michael - "How many subs did you lose?"
Travis U. -- Saturday, 3 April 2004, at 10:28 p.m.
Re: Michael - "How many subs did you lose?"
William Smith -- Thursday, 29 December 2005, at 6:24 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder
Jim Peck -- Sunday, 4 April 2004, at 1:14 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder - comparison pros and cons
Trevor Clarke -- Sunday, 4 April 2004, at 6:37 p.m.
Re: 30% lose of subscribers with verified opt-in? Do you actually lose sales though...
Tom Kulzer -- Monday, 5 April 2004, at 2:26 p.m.
Re: 30% loss : But who made the ISPs our big brother?
RIchard Keir -- Tuesday, 6 April 2004, at 5:52 a.m.
Re: 30% loss : But who made the ISPs our big brother?
Gary Ambrose -- Tuesday, 6 April 2004, at 8:43 a.m.
Re: 30% loss : But who made the ISPs our big brother?
Tom Kulzer -- Tuesday, 6 April 2004, at 2:10 p.m.
Re: 30% loss : But who made the ISPs our big brother?
Philip Allen -- Friday, 9 April 2004, at 2:45 a.m.
Re: 30% loss : But who made the ISPs our big brother?
Tom Kulzer -- Friday, 9 April 2004, at 2:07 p.m.
Re: 30% loss : But who made the ISPs our big brother?
Cheryl Gonzalez -- Friday, 9 April 2004, at 7:23 p.m.
ISPs are our big brother!
Chris Lang -- Saturday, 17 April 2004, at 5:39 p.m.
Re: ISPs are our big brother!
Mike MacDonell -- Sunday, 30 May 2004, at 7:45 a.m.
Yes, but ...
John Glube -- Monday, 31 May 2004, at 7:18 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder - comparison pros and cons(to Trevor)
Julia -- Wednesday, 30 June 2004, at 4:11 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder - comparison pros and cons(to Trevor)
DianeM -- Wednesday, 30 June 2004, at 4:44 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder - comparison pros and cons(to Trevor)
Julia -- Wednesday, 30 June 2004, at 5:01 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder - comparison pros and cons(to Trevor)
Trevor Clarke -- Wednesday, 30 June 2004, at 5:14 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder - comparison pros and cons(to Trevor)
Julia -- Wednesday, 30 June 2004, at 6:12 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder - comparison pros and cons(to Trevor)
Julia -- Wednesday, 30 June 2004, at 6:15 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder - comparison pros and cons(to Trevor)
Trevor Clarke -- Thursday, 1 July 2004, at 2:09 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder - comparison pros and cons(to Trevor)
Aubrey Carroll -- Monday, 5 July 2004, at 11:41 p.m.

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