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ISPs are our big brother!

Posted By: Chris Lang
Date: Saturday, 17 April 2004, at 5:39 p.m.

In Response To: Re: 30% loss : But who made the ISPs our big brother? (RIchard Keir)

Lets make no bones about it: ISPs are protecting their bandwidth with filters.

They play "Good guy protecting our inbox.." but in reality they are protecting
their own severs. This is what IT pros do: protect the servers at all cost.

I deal with the public directly in another web unrealted business and I get to
talk with alot of people who never heard of internet marketing.

These civilians absolutely LOVE spam filters and think the more the better.

The idea that they might be losing emails they want or need NEVER even crossed
their minds.

If I tell this civilian that I have a newsletter about avoiding mistakes
that trap legitement emails in spam filters they ask "So you help spammers???"
They ususally get fairly excited at this point.

In their eyes the ISP is THEIR big brother and big brother is beating up
on spammers as we speak.

Whitelisting your email address, domain and IP of the sending email server
is first and best step in getting past any filter.

You can use my Whitelist Generator here:

Generate whitelist instructions for 20 major filters...

http://www.keywebdata.com/utilities/whitelist.asp

You can a generated example whitelist page here:

http://www.keywebdata.com/enrolled.asp

Remember, big brother is watching!
Chris Lang
http://www.keywebdata.com

Protect your affiliate IDs with a Link Cloaker..

Messages In This Thread

Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder
Richard -- Thursday, 1 April 2004, at 7:18 a.m.

Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder
David Geer -- Thursday, 1 April 2004, at 12:17 p.m.

Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder
David -- Thursday, 1 April 2004, at 7:38 p.m.

ADMIN! Re: Only ONE of these three is currently doing the job...
Michael Green -- Thursday, 1 April 2004, at 9:07 p.m.

Re: Only ONE of these three is currently doing the job...
Matt Garrett -- Thursday, 1 April 2004, at 10:34 p.m.

Re: I have to agree with Michael ...
Mike Merz -- Thursday, 1 April 2004, at 10:34 p.m.

Delivery percentages
Trevor Clarke -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 12:16 a.m.

Re: Delivery percentages
Tom Kulzer -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 4:44 p.m.

ADMIN! Re: Delivery percentages - thanks Tom
Michael Green -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 5:14 p.m.

Re: Delivery percentages + a question ??
Paul White -- Saturday, 3 April 2004, at 11:28 p.m.

Re: Delivery percentages
Trevor Clarke -- Saturday, 3 April 2004, at 2:04 a.m.

Re: Delivery percentages
Doug Champigny -- Saturday, 3 April 2004, at 9:27 p.m.

Re: Delivery percentages
Tom Kulzer -- Monday, 5 April 2004, at 2:06 p.m.

Thanks, Tom!
Doug Champigny -- Monday, 5 April 2004, at 3:04 p.m.

Re: Thanks, Tom!
Tom Kulzer -- Monday, 5 April 2004, at 3:16 p.m.

Re: Thanks, Tom!
Doug Champigny -- Monday, 5 April 2004, at 4:02 p.m.

Re: Thanks, Tom!
Tom Kulzer -- Monday, 5 April 2004, at 4:40 p.m.

Re: Thanks, Tom!
Doug Champigny -- Monday, 5 April 2004, at 4:56 p.m.

Re: Thanks, Tom! and Corey Rudhl
Chris Lang -- Saturday, 17 April 2004, at 4:42 p.m.

Where purchased opt-in leads can be safe
Trevor Clarke -- Monday, 5 April 2004, at 5:33 p.m.

Re: Where purchased opt-in leads can be safe
Tom Kulzer -- Monday, 5 April 2004, at 5:46 p.m.

Re: Where purchased opt-in leads can be safe
Trevor Clarke -- Tuesday, 6 April 2004, at 1:01 a.m.

Re: Where purchased opt-in leads can be safe
Tom Kulzer -- Tuesday, 6 April 2004, at 6:52 p.m.

Re: Where purchased opt-in leads can be safe
Trevor Clarke -- Tuesday, 6 April 2004, at 9:31 p.m.

Re: Delivery percentages
Cheryl Gonzalez -- Friday, 9 April 2004, at 3:43 a.m.

Re: Delivery percentages
Tom Kulzer -- Friday, 9 April 2004, at 2:05 p.m.

Re: Delivery percentages
Julia -- Monday, 28 June 2004, at 4:54 p.m.

Re: Delivery percentages
Tom Kulzer -- Monday, 28 June 2004, at 5:13 p.m.

Re: Delivery percentages
Julia -- Monday, 28 June 2004, at 6:08 p.m.

Re: Delivery percentages
Ray -- Thursday, 1 July 2004, at 11:17 p.m.

Looking for Bob
Howard Anderson -- Tuesday, 23 August 2005, at 2:32 a.m.

Aweber's bold deliverability claims (was Re: Delivery percentages)
Simon Grabowski -- Wednesday, 8 March 2006, at 8:22 p.m.

Re: Aweber's bold deliverability claims (was Re: Delivery percentages)
Chris Upson -- Sunday, 12 March 2006, at 8:20 p.m.

Re: Getresponse bold deliverability claims. 99.45%? Seems bogus if they think AWeber's is bogus.
Tom Kulzer -- Monday, 13 March 2006, at 2:24 a.m.

Re: Aweber bold deliverability claims.
Simon Grabowski -- Saturday, 8 April 2006, at 12:47 p.m.

GetResponse Stalking Aweber?
Chris Dudley -- Saturday, 8 April 2006, at 8:57 p.m.

Re: Aweber bold deliverability claims.
Simon Grabowski -- Saturday, 8 April 2006, at 10:29 p.m.

Re: Aweber bold deliverability claims.
Roger Haeske -- Wednesday, 12 April 2006, at 8:42 p.m.

Re: Only ONE of these three is currently doing the job...
Pamela Heywood -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 9:02 a.m.

Re: Considering using a script on your server? Prepare to educate yourself on the following items..
Tom Kulzer -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 5:05 p.m.

Re: Only ONE of these three is currently doing the job...
Jim Lodwig -- Sunday, 9 April 2006, at 3:51 p.m.

Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder
Steve Yakim -- Saturday, 3 April 2004, at 9:49 p.m.

Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder
Ed Y -- Thursday, 1 April 2004, at 11:03 p.m.

Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder
Tom Kulzer -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 3:46 p.m.

Awesome thread...
Mike Mann -- Saturday, 3 April 2004, at 5:31 a.m.

How about Robot Reply?
Anthony Fesalbon -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 5:20 a.m.

Re: How about Robot Reply?
William Smith -- Thursday, 29 December 2005, at 6:27 p.m.

Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder
Gary Ambrose -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 7:06 a.m.

Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder
Robert Shields -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 11:02 a.m.

Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder
David -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 11:13 a.m.

This is a critical choice...
Fraser Neilson -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 1:55 p.m.

Re: AutoResponders - Could Someone Please Tell Me... ?
Marty Nicholas -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 11:25 a.m.

Royal Responder beats them all ... hands down...
Thom Reece -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 11:45 a.m.

Re:
Chris Lang -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 2:44 p.m.

Michael - "How many subs did you lose?"
Travis U. -- Saturday, 3 April 2004, at 10:28 p.m.

Re: Michael - "How many subs did you lose?"
William Smith -- Thursday, 29 December 2005, at 6:24 p.m.

Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder
Jim Peck -- Sunday, 4 April 2004, at 1:14 p.m.

Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder - comparison pros and cons
Trevor Clarke -- Sunday, 4 April 2004, at 6:37 p.m.

Re: 30% lose of subscribers with verified opt-in? Do you actually lose sales though...
Tom Kulzer -- Monday, 5 April 2004, at 2:26 p.m.

Re: 30% loss : But who made the ISPs our big brother?
RIchard Keir -- Tuesday, 6 April 2004, at 5:52 a.m.

Re: 30% loss : But who made the ISPs our big brother?
Gary Ambrose -- Tuesday, 6 April 2004, at 8:43 a.m.

Re: 30% loss : But who made the ISPs our big brother?
Tom Kulzer -- Tuesday, 6 April 2004, at 2:10 p.m.

Re: 30% loss : But who made the ISPs our big brother?
Philip Allen -- Friday, 9 April 2004, at 2:45 a.m.

Re: 30% loss : But who made the ISPs our big brother?
Tom Kulzer -- Friday, 9 April 2004, at 2:07 p.m.

Re: 30% loss : But who made the ISPs our big brother?
Cheryl Gonzalez -- Friday, 9 April 2004, at 7:23 p.m.

ISPs are our big brother!
Chris Lang -- Saturday, 17 April 2004, at 5:39 p.m.

Re: ISPs are our big brother!
Mike MacDonell -- Sunday, 30 May 2004, at 7:45 a.m.

Yes, but ...
John Glube -- Monday, 31 May 2004, at 7:18 p.m.

Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder - comparison pros and cons(to Trevor)
Julia -- Wednesday, 30 June 2004, at 4:11 p.m.

Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder - comparison pros and cons(to Trevor)
DianeM -- Wednesday, 30 June 2004, at 4:44 p.m.

Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder - comparison pros and cons(to Trevor)
Julia -- Wednesday, 30 June 2004, at 5:01 p.m.

Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder - comparison pros and cons(to Trevor)
Trevor Clarke -- Wednesday, 30 June 2004, at 5:14 p.m.

Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder - comparison pros and cons(to Trevor)
Julia -- Wednesday, 30 June 2004, at 6:12 p.m.

Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder - comparison pros and cons(to Trevor)
Julia -- Wednesday, 30 June 2004, at 6:15 p.m.

Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder - comparison pros and cons(to Trevor)
Trevor Clarke -- Thursday, 1 July 2004, at 2:09 p.m.

Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder - comparison pros and cons(to Trevor)
Aubrey Carroll -- Monday, 5 July 2004, at 11:41 p.m.

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