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Re: Delivery percentages

Posted By: Julia
Date: Monday, 28 June 2004, at 4:54 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Delivery percentages (Tom Kulzer)

Hi, Tom Kulzer or Michael Green,

I have questions about aweber service and getresponse service.

First I signed in getresponse account. They offer free account. Then I found that there is an ad. at the top to my each message to my readers. I upgraded it. There is no more ad. at sending out message. So far, I like it. But my growing concern is the opening rate. I am not sure how many users actually receive my messages. The second concern is that, there is POP ups when reader arrives their home page, which eventually will lure your reader away. I must admit that their inside function is good.

For aweber, I signed in 2 months ago since a lot of online expert recommend it and also high opening rate as they told me. I like it also so far.

You mentioned the delivery rate here for different service. Do you mean that getresponse misses 100% for those aol.com users? Do you have evidence?

For aweber, the global sharing function is not so well developed as I compare getresponse. When I shared one message series to another series, during transfer, the global parameter got lost. My readers need type those global field name by themselves. Getrespone will carry over all those parameter name, my team just need edit their ID or website name, but they do not need enter those global name again. I wish that aweber can have such feature in the future also.

Another question is that:

Which format has the high opening rate? HTML or plain text?

Basically I need know more about why Aweber is better than getresponse? I need choose one only in the long term.

Thank you.

-Julia

> Getresponse still makes several claims on their homepage
> which I have approached Simon (their owner) about to back
> up with some stats because our stats show their claims
> to not be true.

> Deliverability Statistics:

> UPDATED: March 16, 2004

> Currently automatically monitoring and comparing
> delivery of the following domains:

> aol.com
> bellsouth.net
> cs.com
> earthlink.net
> excite.com
> hotmail.com
> mac.com
> mail.com
> msn.com
> netscape.net
> netzero.com
> sbcglobal.net
> usa.net
> worldnet.att.net
> yahoo.com

> We also monitor the delivery of all domains that mail
> is sent thru on our own system. We have backend systems
> that monitor undeliverale messages from all domains across
> all of our servers and are automatically notified if more
> than 10% of email sent is being rejected from a specific
> domain on any of our servers. We then open a trouble ticket
> internally and begin the resolution process with that specific
> ISP or webhost provider. This is on top of the proactive
> communications that we do with all major ISP's before any
> such problem might occur. For example, when someone hits
> the "This is spam" button on AOL's system we have a specific
> relationship with AOL that delivers those reports to us
> and we automatically remove that subscriber from the client
> list and notify our client of the complaint.

> Of the domains listed above, these are the current delivery
> issues across the autoresponder service providers mentioned
> in this thread.

> AWeber.com - 93% delivered.

> bellsouth.net 100% missing

> Proautoresponder.com - 35% delivered.

> aol.com 100% missing
> cs.com 100% missing
> excite.com 100% missing
> hotmail.com 100% missing
> mail.com 100% missing
> msn.com 100% missing
> netzero.com 100% missing
> sbcglobal.net 70% bulk/spam folder, 30% missing
> usa.net 100% missing
> att.net 100% missing
> yahoo.com 100% missing

> Getresponse.com - 63% delivered.

> aol.com 100% missing
> cs.com 100% missing
> excite.com 100% missing
> netscape.net 100% missing
> netzero.net 100% missing
> verizon.net 100% missing

> Emailaces.com - 78% delivered.

> excite.com 100% missing
> mail.com 100% missing
> hotmail.com 20% bulk/spam folder
> yahoo.com 100% bulk/spam folder

> Sincerely,
> Tom Kulzer
> CEO & Founder
> AWeber Communications
> http://www.aweber.com

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Messages In This Thread

Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder
Richard -- Thursday, 1 April 2004, at 7:18 a.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder
David Geer -- Thursday, 1 April 2004, at 12:17 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder
David -- Thursday, 1 April 2004, at 7:38 p.m.
ADMIN! Re: Only ONE of these three is currently doing the job...
Michael Green -- Thursday, 1 April 2004, at 9:07 p.m.
Re: Only ONE of these three is currently doing the job...
Matt Garrett -- Thursday, 1 April 2004, at 10:34 p.m.
Re: I have to agree with Michael ...
Mike Merz -- Thursday, 1 April 2004, at 10:34 p.m.
Delivery percentages
Trevor Clarke -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 12:16 a.m.
Re: Delivery percentages
Tom Kulzer -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 4:44 p.m.
ADMIN! Re: Delivery percentages - thanks Tom
Michael Green -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 5:14 p.m.
Re: Delivery percentages + a question ??
Paul White -- Saturday, 3 April 2004, at 11:28 p.m.
Re: Delivery percentages
Trevor Clarke -- Saturday, 3 April 2004, at 2:04 a.m.
Re: Delivery percentages
Doug Champigny -- Saturday, 3 April 2004, at 9:27 p.m.
Re: Delivery percentages
Tom Kulzer -- Monday, 5 April 2004, at 2:06 p.m.
Thanks, Tom!
Doug Champigny -- Monday, 5 April 2004, at 3:04 p.m.
Re: Thanks, Tom!
Tom Kulzer -- Monday, 5 April 2004, at 3:16 p.m.
Re: Thanks, Tom!
Doug Champigny -- Monday, 5 April 2004, at 4:02 p.m.
Re: Thanks, Tom!
Tom Kulzer -- Monday, 5 April 2004, at 4:40 p.m.
Re: Thanks, Tom!
Doug Champigny -- Monday, 5 April 2004, at 4:56 p.m.
Re: Thanks, Tom! and Corey Rudhl
Chris Lang -- Saturday, 17 April 2004, at 4:42 p.m.
Where purchased opt-in leads can be safe
Trevor Clarke -- Monday, 5 April 2004, at 5:33 p.m.
Re: Where purchased opt-in leads can be safe
Tom Kulzer -- Monday, 5 April 2004, at 5:46 p.m.
Re: Where purchased opt-in leads can be safe
Trevor Clarke -- Tuesday, 6 April 2004, at 1:01 a.m.
Re: Where purchased opt-in leads can be safe
Tom Kulzer -- Tuesday, 6 April 2004, at 6:52 p.m.
Re: Where purchased opt-in leads can be safe
Trevor Clarke -- Tuesday, 6 April 2004, at 9:31 p.m.
Re: Delivery percentages
Cheryl Gonzalez -- Friday, 9 April 2004, at 3:43 a.m.
Re: Delivery percentages
Tom Kulzer -- Friday, 9 April 2004, at 2:05 p.m.
Re: Delivery percentages
Julia -- Monday, 28 June 2004, at 4:54 p.m.
Re: Delivery percentages
Tom Kulzer -- Monday, 28 June 2004, at 5:13 p.m.
Re: Delivery percentages
Julia -- Monday, 28 June 2004, at 6:08 p.m.
Re: Delivery percentages
Ray -- Thursday, 1 July 2004, at 11:17 p.m.
Looking for Bob
Howard Anderson -- Tuesday, 23 August 2005, at 2:32 a.m.
Aweber's bold deliverability claims (was Re: Delivery percentages)
Simon Grabowski -- Wednesday, 8 March 2006, at 8:22 p.m.
Re: Aweber's bold deliverability claims (was Re: Delivery percentages)
Chris Upson -- Sunday, 12 March 2006, at 8:20 p.m.
Re: Getresponse bold deliverability claims. 99.45%? Seems bogus if they think AWeber's is bogus.
Tom Kulzer -- Monday, 13 March 2006, at 2:24 a.m.
Re: Aweber bold deliverability claims.
Simon Grabowski -- Saturday, 8 April 2006, at 12:47 p.m.
GetResponse Stalking Aweber?
Chris Dudley -- Saturday, 8 April 2006, at 8:57 p.m.
Re: Aweber bold deliverability claims.
Simon Grabowski -- Saturday, 8 April 2006, at 10:29 p.m.
Re: Aweber bold deliverability claims.
Roger Haeske -- Wednesday, 12 April 2006, at 8:42 p.m.
Re: Only ONE of these three is currently doing the job...
Pamela Heywood -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 9:02 a.m.
Re: Considering using a script on your server? Prepare to educate yourself on the following items..
Tom Kulzer -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 5:05 p.m.
Re: Only ONE of these three is currently doing the job...
Jim Lodwig -- Sunday, 9 April 2006, at 3:51 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder
Steve Yakim -- Saturday, 3 April 2004, at 9:49 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder
Ed Y -- Thursday, 1 April 2004, at 11:03 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder
Tom Kulzer -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 3:46 p.m.
Awesome thread...
Mike Mann -- Saturday, 3 April 2004, at 5:31 a.m.
How about Robot Reply?
Anthony Fesalbon -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 5:20 a.m.
Re: How about Robot Reply?
William Smith -- Thursday, 29 December 2005, at 6:27 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder
Gary Ambrose -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 7:06 a.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder
Robert Shields -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 11:02 a.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder
David -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 11:13 a.m.
This is a critical choice...
Fraser Neilson -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 1:55 p.m.
Re: AutoResponders - Could Someone Please Tell Me... ?
Marty Nicholas -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 11:25 a.m.
Royal Responder beats them all ... hands down...
Thom Reece -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 11:45 a.m.
Re:
Chris Lang -- Friday, 2 April 2004, at 2:44 p.m.
Michael - "How many subs did you lose?"
Travis U. -- Saturday, 3 April 2004, at 10:28 p.m.
Re: Michael - "How many subs did you lose?"
William Smith -- Thursday, 29 December 2005, at 6:24 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder
Jim Peck -- Sunday, 4 April 2004, at 1:14 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder - comparison pros and cons
Trevor Clarke -- Sunday, 4 April 2004, at 6:37 p.m.
Re: 30% lose of subscribers with verified opt-in? Do you actually lose sales though...
Tom Kulzer -- Monday, 5 April 2004, at 2:26 p.m.
Re: 30% loss : But who made the ISPs our big brother?
RIchard Keir -- Tuesday, 6 April 2004, at 5:52 a.m.
Re: 30% loss : But who made the ISPs our big brother?
Gary Ambrose -- Tuesday, 6 April 2004, at 8:43 a.m.
Re: 30% loss : But who made the ISPs our big brother?
Tom Kulzer -- Tuesday, 6 April 2004, at 2:10 p.m.
Re: 30% loss : But who made the ISPs our big brother?
Philip Allen -- Friday, 9 April 2004, at 2:45 a.m.
Re: 30% loss : But who made the ISPs our big brother?
Tom Kulzer -- Friday, 9 April 2004, at 2:07 p.m.
Re: 30% loss : But who made the ISPs our big brother?
Cheryl Gonzalez -- Friday, 9 April 2004, at 7:23 p.m.
ISPs are our big brother!
Chris Lang -- Saturday, 17 April 2004, at 5:39 p.m.
Re: ISPs are our big brother!
Mike MacDonell -- Sunday, 30 May 2004, at 7:45 a.m.
Yes, but ...
John Glube -- Monday, 31 May 2004, at 7:18 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder - comparison pros and cons(to Trevor)
Julia -- Wednesday, 30 June 2004, at 4:11 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder - comparison pros and cons(to Trevor)
DianeM -- Wednesday, 30 June 2004, at 4:44 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder - comparison pros and cons(to Trevor)
Julia -- Wednesday, 30 June 2004, at 5:01 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder - comparison pros and cons(to Trevor)
Trevor Clarke -- Wednesday, 30 June 2004, at 5:14 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder - comparison pros and cons(to Trevor)
Julia -- Wednesday, 30 June 2004, at 6:12 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder - comparison pros and cons(to Trevor)
Julia -- Wednesday, 30 June 2004, at 6:15 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder - comparison pros and cons(to Trevor)
Trevor Clarke -- Thursday, 1 July 2004, at 2:09 p.m.
Re: Aweber, GetResponse, Proautoresponder - comparison pros and cons(to Trevor)
Aubrey Carroll -- Monday, 5 July 2004, at 11:41 p.m.

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