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Re: So what?

Posted By: Christopher Given
Date: Sunday, 19 September 2004, at 10:42 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Could be tricky to convert those sales! (Chris)

Ok ok, I've heard of the names, but when you surf a lot, you'll come across the names sooner or later. But that does not mean these guys are expert at anything.

When I studied Marketing and Sales, we as students actually 'study' the techniques involved, and we know what the techniques will do and exactly how effective each is. But I'm not disputing that the Tony Blakes of this world, aren't successful (they've done well to get the interest they have), I'm saying they are sales people - more than Advertisers or copywriters. As that does stand out about them. Obviously, they are targeting the types that will believe the basics, and consider the basics to be Marketing in it's entirity - and that must involve deception at some point.

These people are gullible!

Generally speaking people are very gullible, they think they will get something amazing for $100 when in actual fact all they get is something full of basics.

The problem is that the basics will only get them minimal results. Yet you can bet your life that the sales pitch they've just read has been designed to promise so much more. And that's where the deception comes into play.

But most on here know where I stand on this, so we'll leave it at that okay.

> You've been online 5 years and consider yourself an advanced marketer, yet
> have not heard of Kirt or any of these people: Armand Morin, Stephen
> Pierce, Tony Blake, Mike Litman?

> Seriously? Are you spending all your time on AOL's home page or something?

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Arturo -- Wednesday, 15 September 2004, at 11:01 a.m.

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Andy Henry -- Wednesday, 15 September 2004, at 11:10 a.m.

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Jigar Banker -- Wednesday, 15 September 2004, at 1:17 p.m.

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Re: Wow Seen This ? James Brausch $10,000 Training... Help
Kirt Christensen -- Wednesday, 15 September 2004, at 3:48 p.m.

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Arturo -- Thursday, 16 September 2004, at 12:03 a.m.

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Kirt Christensen -- Thursday, 16 September 2004, at 2:49 a.m.

Re: Wow Seen This ? James Brausch $10,000 Training... Help
Arturo -- Thursday, 16 September 2004, at 7:50 a.m.

Re: Wow Seen This ? James Brausch $10,000 Training... Help
Martin -- Saturday, 8 January 2005, at 12:33 p.m.

shame
Andy Henry -- Saturday, 8 January 2005, at 1:09 p.m.

Re: Isn't there a money back guarantee?? DNO *DNO*
herb -- Saturday, 8 January 2005, at 10:25 p.m.

Re: Wow Seen This ? James Brausch $10,000 Training... Help
Kirt Christensen -- Sunday, 9 January 2005, at 11:28 a.m.

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Martin -- Sunday, 9 January 2005, at 2:33 p.m.

Re: Couldn't have put it better myself - it's got to be a con *DNO*
Christopher Given -- Wednesday, 15 September 2004, at 3:51 p.m.

I'd be happy to verify anything you desire
Kirt Christensen -- Wednesday, 15 September 2004, at 4:08 p.m.

Re: People are not stupid - it's a mistake to think so *DNO*
Christopher Given -- Wednesday, 15 September 2004, at 7:48 p.m.

Huh?
Kirt Christensen -- Wednesday, 15 September 2004, at 9:36 p.m.

Re: Okay then
Christopher Given -- Wednesday, 15 September 2004, at 10:48 p.m.

Re: Okay then
Kirt Christensen -- Wednesday, 15 September 2004, at 11:04 p.m.

Re: Could be tricky to convert those sales!
Christopher Given -- Thursday, 16 September 2004, at 12:34 a.m.

Re: Could be tricky to convert those sales!
Kirt Christensen -- Thursday, 16 September 2004, at 12:56 a.m.

Re: Could be tricky to convert those sales!
Andy Henry -- Friday, 17 September 2004, at 12:55 p.m.

Re: Could be tricky to convert those sales!
Chris -- Sunday, 19 September 2004, at 5:57 a.m.

Re: So what?
Christopher Given -- Sunday, 19 September 2004, at 10:42 p.m.

Re: I hate AOL! *DNO*
Christopher Given -- Sunday, 19 September 2004, at 10:43 p.m.

Re: Okay then - Kirt Christensen, you are so full of B.S.!
Martin -- Saturday, 8 January 2005, at 12:41 p.m.

Re: I knew this would happen with these Seminars lol *DNO*
Christopher Given -- Saturday, 8 January 2005, at 4:48 p.m.

Re: Okay then - Kirt Christensen, you are so full of B.S.!
Kirt Christensen -- Sunday, 9 January 2005, at 10:16 a.m.

From another disappointed Martin ...
Martin Avis -- Sunday, 9 January 2005, at 10:49 a.m.

Check your email Martin... (DNO) *DNO*
Kirt Christensen -- Sunday, 9 January 2005, at 11:14 a.m.

Re: Thanks Kirt for such a prompt response & resolve!
Martin -- Sunday, 9 January 2005, at 2:52 p.m.

Kirt has not honored his refund promise
John G -- Wednesday, 12 January 2005, at 7:25 a.m.

Re: I do hope you get your refund...... *DNO*
Christopher Given -- Wednesday, 12 January 2005, at 5:41 p.m.

We honor ALL guarantees...
Kirt Christensen -- Thursday, 13 January 2005, at 6:42 p.m.

Re: We honor ALL guarantees... - When?
Martin -- Monday, 19 September 2005, at 11:14 p.m.

Re: We honor ALL guarantees... - When?
Kirt Christensen -- Tuesday, 20 September 2005, at 12:42 a.m.

Re: We honor ALL guarantees... - When?
andy henry -- Tuesday, 20 September 2005, at 2:16 p.m.

Re: We honor ALL guarantees... - When?
Martin -- Tuesday, 20 September 2005, at 3:14 p.m.

Re: We honor ALL guarantees... - When?
Kirt Christensen -- Tuesday, 20 September 2005, at 3:36 p.m.

Re: We honor ALL guarantees... - When?
Martin -- Tuesday, 20 September 2005, at 4:22 p.m.

Re: We honor ALL guarantees... - When?
Kirt Christensen -- Tuesday, 20 September 2005, at 1:07 a.m.

Re: We honor ALL guarantees... - When?
Cindy Morus -- Wednesday, 21 September 2005, at 3:50 p.m.

Here's what I show...
Kirt Christensen -- Wednesday, 21 September 2005, at 4:35 p.m.

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Sanoe -- Wednesday, 4 January 2006, at 12:45 a.m.

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Arturo -- Wednesday, 4 January 2006, at 5:20 a.m.

Re: yep...that sucks, but not totally unexpected
asdfgh -- Wednesday, 4 January 2006, at 8:02 a.m.

LMAO!
Son Of Spam -- Wednesday, 4 January 2006, at 9:51 p.m.

Re: LMAO!
AndyHenry -- Thursday, 5 January 2006, at 12:52 p.m.

Andy is a straight shooter!
Son Of Spam -- Thursday, 5 January 2006, at 7:02 p.m.

Re: Andy is a straight shooter!
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Fellow Burned FEC member -- Friday, 13 January 2006, at 10:21 p.m.

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Another Burned FEC Member -- Wednesday, 8 February 2006, at 1:54 a.m.

Re: I still don't understand "exactly" what
Christopher Given -- Wednesday, 15 September 2004, at 12:55 p.m.

Incorrect -- NOTHING to do with AdWords
Kirt Christensen -- Wednesday, 15 September 2004, at 9:46 p.m.

Re: I commented on another's post! *DNO*
Christopher Given -- Wednesday, 15 September 2004, at 10:08 p.m.

The facts on this offer....
Kirt Christensen -- Wednesday, 15 September 2004, at 3:38 p.m.

Re: The facts on this offer....
Greg Burton -- Thursday, 16 September 2004, at 5:07 a.m.

Re: Oh what - another one!!!!
Christopher Given -- Thursday, 16 September 2004, at 12:23 p.m.

Re: Oh what - another one!!!!
Michael Ambrosio -- Thursday, 16 September 2004, at 1:25 p.m.

Re: I can review a sales pitch - because I can see it!
Christopher Given -- Thursday, 16 September 2004, at 9:58 p.m.

Don't understand the amazement
JscottGekko -- Friday, 17 September 2004, at 8:41 a.m.

But am amazed at...
JscottGekko -- Friday, 17 September 2004, at 9:33 a.m.

More info.....
Derek J. -- Saturday, 9 October 2004, at 7:26 p.m.

Re: More info.....
Roger -- Friday, 27 October 2006, at 7:54 p.m.

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