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Re: Some things don't seem right

Posted By: Christopher
Date: Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 9:17 p.m.

In Response To: Can you? (Andy Henry)

hmmmmm. I don't have to know Chip to know that anything placed on the web, or sent by newsletter is going to be read by people who have no connection with him or his family.

These people are strangers - correct?? Put it this way, would you just hand over your cash, because an obituary was written? I'm not saying that it's untrue, or that he can't raise funds, just the way he's gone about it, is wrong - that's all.

These are my observations:

The mail is very spammy, and stinks of a friendship type letter (he does call me a friend!), maybe along the lines of those friendship bracelets kids give each other. The fact this arrived in my inbox, clearly proves he's engaged in a mass mailing campaign, and is targeting anyone and unrequested I might add.

This reveals he's asking for or expecting major cash, and doesn't care who it comes from. It will be interesting to see if he sends a Thank You, letter to everyone who got his email, or who have paid a donation. Those that have paid, (and the figures are too hard to calculate) may be wondering how their money will be spent, as the surplus of funds could easily pay for whatever specialist flight service is used. Therefore, I would expect any unused funds to be returned. But even if the body is shipped, cannot possibly justify the potential cash he could get from this campaign, and it is a campaign my friend!

And why doesn't Chip write the email himself - what's this other bloke Michel Fortin got to do with it. I understand Chip broke his collar bone? Well that shouldn't interfere with his hands and fingers then. But anyway, in his letter this Michel Fortin wrote, says the funds raised are to fly the body to Delaware - okay, but then household costs have to be met too. And the letter ends with Chips business site urls.

If this wan't intended to be a marketing/business letter - why does Michel or Chip need to list their businesses in a obituary type email (if that's what it was). Is it an obituary, or is it business mail - infact lets call it both shall we. Make your mind up Michel, I'm a little confused here.

Paying for a flight, even with transportation of a coffin, funeral costs etc can't be beyond $15K let's say. So Chip is not only asking for those costs to be donated, he wants others to pay his house bills too. Why the hell should I (a complete stranger) pay his living costs!! Does that mean I can move in as well.

That's just taking the Pee. And you guys think that's a perfectly normal request do you lol.

Anyway, moving on:

The whole cash raising campaign could have been done in a more appropriate fashion, and fitting with a more mourning feeling. Say, donations at the funeral is one way of raising cash, as a token gift.

As for the emails, I'm not so sure that using emails was a good idea of drawing attention to someone's death. As I said before - highly inappropriate for someone who has just died, as this whole thing has been done in a marketing type way.

Regards

> Not just Americans it seems.

> Your ignorance of who Chip is surprises me for someone who is constantly
> online proclaiming the ignorance of everyone else.

> This isn't a professional marketing campaign - It's a spur of the moment
> attempt to help a fellow entrepeneur deal with one of the worst personal
> tragedies that can ever happen.

> Jesus, I am actually offended by your rude response to this occurance.

> For your information, Chip is one of the most professional, pleasant and
> upbeat people I've ever dealt with online and I am moved by the response
> from others to join in and try and help the guy.

> Andy

Messages In This Thread

I Need Your Help To Help A Friend In Need...
Michel Fortin -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 4:16 p.m.

Please help Chip Tarver....Re: I Need Your Help To Help A Friend In Need...
Dr. MIke -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 5:29 p.m.

Re: Can people be that stupid?
Christopher -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 6:40 p.m.

Re: Can people be that stupid?
Mark Wade -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 7:34 p.m.

Re: Can people be that stupid?
Christopher -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 8:14 p.m.

OK .. Christopher
Arturo -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 8:25 p.m.

Re: Ok, the clipping will be fine. Thanks
Christopher -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 9:25 p.m.

Re: Ok, the clipping will be fine. Thanks
Kelly Lowe -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 10:44 p.m.

Re: Why do you insult me Kelly? What have I done to you.
Christopher -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 11:56 p.m.

Clueless
Sam Freedom -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 12:01 a.m.

Re: Why do you insult me Kelly? What have I done to you.
Kelly Lowe -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 4:37 a.m.

It's obvious this jerk-off HAS no friends
Michael Ambrosio -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 10:31 a.m.

we know - he sits at home alone on a Saturday night typing on forums doesn't he? *DNO*
Thomas Walker -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 5:08 p.m.

THAT is 100 % UNBELIEVEABLE............
rob.s -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 4:29 p.m.

Yeah Givens - post your home address on here - go on! *DNO*
Thomas Walker -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 5:05 p.m.

There's a Time to Stop, Man, and You're Just in Poor Taste.
Sam Freedom -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 11:47 p.m.

Re: I commented on how this was Marketed - how is that bad taste. *DNO*
Christopher -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 12:00 a.m.

CHRISTOPHER, HIS WIFE IS DEAD AND YOU ARE MAKING THINGS WORSE, SHUT UP. (DNO)
Bob -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 1:51 a.m.

I'll Tell You How...
Sam Freedom -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 4:16 a.m.

Re: I'll Tell You How...
Pete -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 1:41 p.m.

Well, You Must Remember...
Sam Freedom -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 8:40 p.m.

Re: Well, You Must Remember...
Still Curious -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 9:13 p.m.

Re: Well, You Must Remember...
Sam Freedom -- Friday, 11 February 2005, at 12:19 a.m.

Re: Well, You Must Remember...
Still Curious -- Friday, 11 February 2005, at 12:44 a.m.

Chris, what you need more than proof
Pete -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 1:38 p.m.

Thanks Mark ...
Arturo -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 8:18 p.m.

Re: Thanks Mark ...
Andy Henry -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 8:30 p.m.

Thanks Andy ...
Arturo -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 8:33 p.m.

Re: Thanks Mark ...Happy To...
Mark Wade -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 10:43 p.m.

Re: Oh, he's not contacting strangers after all!
Christopher -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 12:09 a.m.

Re: Oh, he's not contacting strangers after all!
Mark Wade -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 1:05 a.m.

Re: Americans aren't the only ones who help others...
David -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 7:14 a.m.

Already doing that .. .... *DNO*
Arturo -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 10:01 a.m.

"Barn raising" at the How To Community...
Thomas Walker -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 5:23 p.m.

Re: Can people be that stupid?
David -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 8:59 p.m.

Christopher, the only "Stranger" here is you!
Josh Anderson -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 8:03 p.m.

Re: I didn't mean the people on here! Cohorts Ltd?? *DNO*
Christopher -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 8:16 p.m.

Can you?
Andy Henry -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 8:14 p.m.

Re: Some things don't seem right
Christopher -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 9:17 p.m.

Re: Some things don't seem right
Michel Fortin -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 9:30 p.m.

Re: Some things don't seem right
Peter Stone -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 11:19 p.m.

They never will to you
andy henry -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 9:38 p.m.

Re: Some things don't seem right
Arturo -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 10:10 p.m.

Christopher I wish you would shut up...
kim standerline -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 10:45 p.m.

Re: I'm sure he is nice - I don't know him
Christopher -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 12:28 a.m.

*SPAM* Please delete....
andy henry -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 10:04 a.m.

Kymi, don't bother . . .
Pete -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 1:45 p.m.

Can I say "Retard" now?
Sam Freedom -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 8:52 p.m.

No, the correct thing to say is Mentally Challenged; but "NASTY" was correct in this case, also!!! *DNO*
~S~ -- Friday, 11 February 2005, at 4:56 a.m.

true.. no one should ever say retard.. *DNO*
rob.s -- Friday, 11 February 2005, at 11:21 a.m.

the true meaning of retard
Sam Freedom -- Friday, 11 February 2005, at 7:55 p.m.

ADMIN! Wait a second Sam... this goes against your previous agreement...
Michael Green -- Friday, 11 February 2005, at 11:32 p.m.

Re: Can CHRISTOPHER be that stupid? -- About "HUMANS"
Alice Seba -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 8:46 a.m.

Re: Can CHRISTOPHER be that stupid? -- About "HUMANS"
Trevor Clarke -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 1:55 p.m.

Another Thought .. And A Question
Arturo -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 7:55 p.m.

Chip told me this morning... =/ ... I'm going to send htis letter you wrote to my folks Michel, JJ *DNO*
Mike Black -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 9:07 p.m.

You Need My Help, Alright....
Sam Freedom -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 11:51 p.m.

sorry
Sam Freedom -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 4:25 a.m.

This ones for you Christopher . . . It's not up for debate.
Alex Ribeiro -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 2:32 a.m.

To All You Beautiful People...
Jason Mangrum -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 4:09 a.m.

Re: To All You Beautiful People...
andy henry -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 10:02 a.m.

Re: To All You Beautiful People...
Jason Mangrum -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 10:23 a.m.

Am I a Beautiful People?
Sam Freedom -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 8:59 p.m.

Re: Am I a Beautiful People? -- Sure, why not? ;-)
Jason Mangrum -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 9:14 p.m.

Re: Am I a Beautiful People?
Jim Furr -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 9:03 p.m.

Well Said Jason ... Ditto *DNO*
Arturo -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 10:11 a.m.

To Chip
Michael Wysmierski -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 5:05 p.m.

Re: To All You Beautiful People... :-) well said mate *DNO*
rob.s -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 5:06 p.m.

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