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Re: Can CHRISTOPHER be that stupid? -- About "HUMANS"

Posted By: Trevor Clarke
Date: Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 1:55 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Can CHRISTOPHER be that stupid? -- About "HUMANS" (Alice Seba)

Alice summarises it all very well, and after expressing agreement with her words, just to add this:

Christopher has made a big point about nationality and how we react and Alice is right about it being about HUMANITY. As a proud Brit, I feel bound to make a point that Christopher speaks only for Christopher and not in any way on behalf of a 'British' way of thinking. Two traits we are known for are a higher sense of cynicism (which can have some positive attributes) and separately, a high degree of compassion. Unfortunately, Christopher has been overdosed on one and lacks the other. As Alice and others have said, while we can think whatever we choose, the cynicism should have been kept as a private thought.

Extreme caution is needed when tragedy strikes and it is up to the doubter to prove substantive evidence to back their claim, not the other way round while airing suspicions publicly and casually.

On the point about strangers, we do not have to know the person to feel compassion and a sense of wanting to help. Many of us did not know those who suffered in the tsunami disaster, and yet the world responded amazingly as if we were one big family. My heart goes out to Chip Tarver and his family.

Christopher is quaintly old fashioned in his outlook on just about everything and especially related to running an online business. It is puzzling that he bothers to get involved if he despises so much about it.

If anything, the reactions of people, bar one, to the tragedy, show the positive side of the internet marketing community and if nothing else, (and looking for the positive), at least Christopher has flushed that out, at the expense of making himself look totally stupid, and rather a sad loner type.

Trevor Clarke

> I kind of understand where Christopher STARTED coming from before he lost
> all sense. We see all these pleas for donations online and sometimes it
> can be confusing as to what's real and what's not. There ARE a lot of
> scammers online, unfortunately. But you know what, if you don't feel like
> donating or aren't sure about the cause...you ignore it. If you think it's
> a scam, you do your RESEARCH. We know that this story is true...there is
> no question.

> Anyway, I'm sorry that Christopher reduced everything to an
> "American" thing...because it's a human thing. First of all,
> Michel is not American. Second of all, Chip MAY be American...I don't
> actually know that for sure. All I know is that my dear friend Michel has
> a friend who lost his wife. They're all humans and this is a terrible
> tragedy.

> What does where you're from have to do with anything? I am so sorry for
> Chip and his loss. This poor man has probably better things to think about
> than the "How to Forum", but I ache at the thought of him
> reading through these threads and the turmoil it caused.

> We don't know one another, Chip, but my thoughts and prayers are with you.

> Alice

Messages In This Thread

I Need Your Help To Help A Friend In Need...
Michel Fortin -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 4:16 p.m.
Please help Chip Tarver....Re: I Need Your Help To Help A Friend In Need...
Dr. MIke -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 5:29 p.m.
Re: Can people be that stupid?
Christopher -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 6:40 p.m.
Re: Can people be that stupid?
Mark Wade -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 7:34 p.m.
Re: Can people be that stupid?
Christopher -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 8:14 p.m.
OK .. Christopher
Arturo -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 8:25 p.m.
Re: Ok, the clipping will be fine. Thanks
Christopher -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 9:25 p.m.
Re: Ok, the clipping will be fine. Thanks
Kelly Lowe -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 10:44 p.m.
Re: Why do you insult me Kelly? What have I done to you.
Christopher -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 11:56 p.m.
Clueless
Sam Freedom -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 12:01 a.m.
Re: Why do you insult me Kelly? What have I done to you.
Kelly Lowe -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 4:37 a.m.
It's obvious this jerk-off HAS no friends
Michael Ambrosio -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 10:31 a.m.
we know - he sits at home alone on a Saturday night typing on forums doesn't he? *DNO*
Thomas Walker -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 5:08 p.m.
THAT is 100 % UNBELIEVEABLE............
rob.s -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 4:29 p.m.
Yeah Givens - post your home address on here - go on! *DNO*
Thomas Walker -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 5:05 p.m.
There's a Time to Stop, Man, and You're Just in Poor Taste.
Sam Freedom -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 11:47 p.m.
Re: I commented on how this was Marketed - how is that bad taste. *DNO*
Christopher -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 12:00 a.m.
CHRISTOPHER, HIS WIFE IS DEAD AND YOU ARE MAKING THINGS WORSE, SHUT UP. (DNO)
Bob -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 1:51 a.m.
I'll Tell You How...
Sam Freedom -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 4:16 a.m.
Re: I'll Tell You How...
Pete -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 1:41 p.m.
Well, You Must Remember...
Sam Freedom -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 8:40 p.m.
Re: Well, You Must Remember...
Still Curious -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 9:13 p.m.
Re: Well, You Must Remember...
Sam Freedom -- Friday, 11 February 2005, at 12:19 a.m.
Re: Well, You Must Remember...
Still Curious -- Friday, 11 February 2005, at 12:44 a.m.
Chris, what you need more than proof
Pete -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 1:38 p.m.
Thanks Mark ...
Arturo -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 8:18 p.m.
Re: Thanks Mark ...
Andy Henry -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 8:30 p.m.
Thanks Andy ...
Arturo -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 8:33 p.m.
Re: Thanks Mark ...Happy To...
Mark Wade -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 10:43 p.m.
Re: Oh, he's not contacting strangers after all!
Christopher -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 12:09 a.m.
Re: Oh, he's not contacting strangers after all!
Mark Wade -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 1:05 a.m.
Re: Americans aren't the only ones who help others...
David -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 7:14 a.m.
Already doing that .. :) .... *DNO*
Arturo -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 10:01 a.m.
"Barn raising" at the How To Community...
Thomas Walker -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 5:23 p.m.
Re: Can people be that stupid?
David -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 8:59 p.m.
Christopher, the only "Stranger" here is you!
Josh Anderson -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 8:03 p.m.
Re: I didn't mean the people on here! Cohorts Ltd?? *DNO*
Christopher -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 8:16 p.m.
Can you?
Andy Henry -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 8:14 p.m.
Re: Some things don't seem right
Christopher -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 9:17 p.m.
Re: Some things don't seem right
Michel Fortin -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 9:30 p.m.
Re: Some things don't seem right
Peter Stone -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 11:19 p.m.
They never will to you
andy henry -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 9:38 p.m.
Re: Some things don't seem right
Arturo -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 10:10 p.m.
Christopher I wish you would shut up...
kim standerline -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 10:45 p.m.
Re: I'm sure he is nice - I don't know him
Christopher -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 12:28 a.m.
*SPAM* Please delete....
andy henry -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 10:04 a.m.
Kymi, don't bother . . .
Pete -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 1:45 p.m.
Can I say "Retard" now?
Sam Freedom -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 8:52 p.m.
No, the correct thing to say is Mentally Challenged; but "NASTY" was correct in this case, also!!! *DNO*
~S~ -- Friday, 11 February 2005, at 4:56 a.m.
true.. no one should ever say retard.. *DNO*
rob.s -- Friday, 11 February 2005, at 11:21 a.m.
the true meaning of retard
Sam Freedom -- Friday, 11 February 2005, at 7:55 p.m.
ADMIN! Wait a second Sam... this goes against your previous agreement...
Michael Green -- Friday, 11 February 2005, at 11:32 p.m.
Re: Can CHRISTOPHER be that stupid? -- About "HUMANS"
Alice Seba -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 8:46 a.m.
Re: Can CHRISTOPHER be that stupid? -- About "HUMANS"
Trevor Clarke -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 1:55 p.m.
Another Thought .. And A Question
Arturo -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 7:55 p.m.
Chip told me this morning... =/ ... I'm going to send htis letter you wrote to my folks Michel, JJ *DNO*
Mike Black -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 9:07 p.m.
You Need My Help, Alright....
Sam Freedom -- Wednesday, 9 February 2005, at 11:51 p.m.
sorry
Sam Freedom -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 4:25 a.m.
This ones for you Christopher . . . It's not up for debate.
Alex Ribeiro -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 2:32 a.m.
To All You Beautiful People...
Jason Mangrum -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 4:09 a.m.
Re: To All You Beautiful People...
andy henry -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 10:02 a.m.
Re: To All You Beautiful People...
Jason Mangrum -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 10:23 a.m.
Am I a Beautiful People?
Sam Freedom -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 8:59 p.m.
Re: Am I a Beautiful People? -- Sure, why not? ;-)
Jason Mangrum -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 9:14 p.m.
Re: Am I a Beautiful People?
Jim Furr -- Saturday, 19 February 2005, at 9:03 p.m.
Well Said Jason ... Ditto *DNO*
Arturo -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 10:11 a.m.
To Chip
Michael Wysmierski -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 5:05 p.m.
Re: To All You Beautiful People... :-) well said mate *DNO*
rob.s -- Thursday, 10 February 2005, at 5:06 p.m.

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