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Posted By: Kim Thomas In Response To: Re: I still say virus software is useless (Mark Singletary)
Date: Monday, 18 August 2003, at 4:15 p.m.
Hi Mark,
I was pondering a lot about my response. I just feel that most people open themselves for attack because they "rely" so much on their virus protection which is always after the fact.
My response is aimed at wakeing people up and open for debate like these emails from you guys.
So now we can let people see that .. they are vulnerable ... to be attacked if someone out there is aimed at hurting them.
The only really safe way is NEVER open an attachment. but how does that work in real life?
I use mail call, ad aware and zone alarm and I am relatively safe at the moment.
Also like I posted a while ago, I don't allow my family to open any attachments. I opened it and checked first.
Thank you for post, very caring and very detail.
kt
> Kim,
> The products you mentioned can be part of a
> security solution but leaving out antivirus
> software is just silly and dangerous if
> you're serious about protecting yourself.> A few points:
> 1. How is having to wait for signature
> updates for an AV program any different from
> having to wait for signature updates from
> AdAware?> 2. Which of your 3 solutions would protect
> you from viruses in these categories:> Viruses from a CD-ROM, floppy, or another
> hard drive?
> Viruses from a downloadable product like an
> ebook or software?
> Viruses you can get through chat programs
> like ICQ, AOL, or Yahoo?
> Viruses you can get from simply surfing the
> web from rogue Javascript, VBScript, Java
> applets, or ActiveX controls?
> Macro viruses that spread through software
> like MS Word or Excel?> 3. The great majority of users don't know
> how to read an email header much less
> decipher scripts that may be in an email to
> determine its safety. This may work for you
> and for those who know and understand code
> but the great majority wouldn't know the
> difference if it came up and bit them on the
> hand and all scripts and attachments are not
> evil.> 4. When or if you do get infected due to
> holes in your security which one of your 3
> programs provides virus cleaning?> 5. Apparently the people who make ZoneAlarm
> agree with me on this page -
> http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/support/techNote_7.jsp
> where they say "Zone Labs recommends
> that enterprises and individual users also
> deploy and maintain an updated anti-virus
> product along with Zone Labs solutions to
> maximize protection for their networks and
> computers." Likewise the Adaware forum
> is full of recommendations for people to
> have and use antivirus software.> Kim I say this with the utmost respect for
> you because I know you post a lot of things
> here that are helpful to a lot of people.
> But I hope that people don't follow this
> advice you've given because if followed I
> think people are opening themselves up for a
> certain virus infection with the possible
> resultant loss of money, time, and data.> My point is why not run an antivirus program
> as part of your entire security solution
> instead of saying it's worthless? Most work
> in the background so they don't bother you.
> Most can automatically update their database
> when new signatures are available so they
> don't bother you. And finally antivirus
> software is designed to prevent and clean
> viruses while other tools are designed for
> something completely differently.> Mark
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