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Re: "Secrets of the Big Dogs" - Anybody read it? *LINK*

Posted By: Leo Silvestri
Date: Wednesday, 28 June 2006, at 5:54 a.m.

In Response To: Re: "Secrets of the Big Dogs" - Anybody read it? *LINK* (Steven Wagenheim)

Hi Steve,

Sorry about that Steve, it wasn’t my intention to trash your money making program as I was simply stating what happen to me back then. To be honest with you I can’t recall how I end it up in this forum, now that I’ve found it we’re going to have some fun.

Let me just say that I wasn’t lazy nor where my Alpha Dogs, while I was spending $ 280.00 per month by trying to sell an e-book and hoping everybody’s would join those FFA sites something very strange happen, I came across a conference software link where by start talking to other marketers I’ve discovered that you could reach the same leads those FFA sites offer you through the Big Dogs program without paying a dime for it, then I also learned things like “ follow up” ( unknown to Big Dogs affiliates ), building relationships and friendships with other marketers before trying to sell them anything, so instead of keep on spending that kind of money with the FFA sites to make a few people richer I choose to learn the art of the true reverse marketing thought by people that even though never wrote any e-book are making serious money online.

When I first read the Big Dogs e-book since I was new online and everything made sense to me, that is why I followed through. Even though I did sell 18-20 e-books and had five Alpha Dogs the duplication just wasn’t happening, and that wasn’t because I was lazy it was simply because I couldn’t find enough dumb people like me who would give the program the time it need it to become successful with it, as you know people in general can only endure those monthly payments for so long without results and then will eventually quit.

I know that this will never happen to you, because of your credibility and ads writing skills you will always sell enough e-books to offset your monthly fees, what I would like to know is how many people you had to go through for your commissions, how many e-book sales it took, and how many have quit on you so far. If you need help with those numbers you can check the testimonial page from my FFA report and I’m sure you will recognize quite a few from your past downline:

http://www.leosilvestri.com/ffareport.testim.html

Steve, do you know that the majority successes stories in the training manual are from Alpha Dogs who have quit the program long ago? Why have they quit if they where so successful with the program? I’ll tell you why, no Alpha Dogs left for them to collect those monthly commissions. Where are the Successmakers ffa owners Chris Gibson and Juan Walker? ( they’ve also sold tons of the e-books in the past ) Find Scott Yong from Florida and ask him why he quit after he sold 20 e-books and nine Alpha Dogs in the first month, or any of the others mentioned in the success training page. You will have a better understanding of your Big Dogs program. Guaranteed!

You see Steve, the most powerful internet marketing tool is our voice through a speaker, even though you don’t like to use it is still the best way to reach out people, to find out their dreams and goals, their financial possibilities before bringing them into any program. You should try it sometimes, with your talent you could make many more friends and surely much more money besides your current income.

In case you’ll never pursue any other online ventures, then I would like you to consider this: after you sell the next e-book send that person to my site for all the help he really needs to succeed online and forget the CHIP’s stuff cause most likely he will not be around as a paying member long enough for you to collect the big bucks for ever. ( I’m sure you will not do any of that and so I wish you good luck anyways )

All the best,

Leo Silvestri

Leo Silvestri

Mentoring Big Dreamers

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"Secrets of the Big Dogs" - Anybody read it? *LINK*
Doug -- Thursday, 20 March 2003, at 1:20 p.m.
Re: "Secrets of the Big Dogs" - Anybody read it? *LINK*
Rick -- Thursday, 20 March 2003, at 3:57 p.m.
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Kim Thomas -- Thursday, 20 March 2003, at 9:26 p.m.
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Don Phillips -- Sunday, 23 March 2003, at 7:13 p.m.
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AFP -- Saturday, 28 May 2005, at 3:06 a.m.
Re: "Secrets of the Big Dogs" - Don't Do it
Virginia Sanders -- Sunday, 29 May 2005, at 4:05 a.m.
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David Hazlett -- Tuesday, 12 December 2006, at 6:05 p.m.
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Waldemar Puszkarz -- Wednesday, 13 December 2006, at 9:29 p.m.
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Moocha -- Monday, 18 December 2006, at 10:48 p.m.
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dk -- Thursday, 20 March 2003, at 8:05 p.m.
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Denise -- Thursday, 20 March 2003, at 9:40 p.m.
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Rich Stadnick -- Monday, 19 September 2005, at 6:41 p.m.
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Andre Meixner -- Friday, 21 March 2003, at 5:22 a.m.
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Doug -- Saturday, 22 March 2003, at 12:49 p.m.
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Deb -- Sunday, 23 March 2003, at 8:51 p.m.
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Jay -- Friday, 12 March 2004, at 1:44 p.m.
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Mike -- Tuesday, 18 May 2004, at 5:50 a.m.
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joe -- Saturday, 22 May 2004, at 1:54 p.m.
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Kev -- Sunday, 23 March 2003, at 10:29 p.m.
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Greg -- Monday, 26 April 2004, at 2:51 a.m.
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Pete Egeler -- Monday, 26 April 2004, at 3:32 a.m.
Re: Save your money!!
Jeremy Hoover -- Saturday, 28 May 2005, at 4:28 p.m.
Re: Save your money!!
Rich Stadnick -- Monday, 19 September 2005, at 6:43 p.m.
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Michelle -- Monday, 26 April 2004, at 4:52 a.m.
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Chris Kail -- Saturday, 28 May 2005, at 8:37 p.m.
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Son Of Spam -- Tuesday, 20 September 2005, at 5:38 a.m.
Re: It's trash
Christopher -- Tuesday, 27 September 2005, at 11:29 p.m.
Re: It's trash *DNO*
Victor Rodas -- Monday, 19 December 2005, at 6:19 a.m.
Re: It's trash
Victor Rodas -- Monday, 19 December 2005, at 7:03 a.m.
Re: "Secrets of the Big Dogs" - Anybody read it? *LINK*
Steve Crawford -- Wednesday, 29 March 2006, at 5:50 a.m.
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Steve Crawford -- Sunday, 14 May 2006, at 4:11 a.m.
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Pete -- Sunday, 14 May 2006, at 8:38 p.m.
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Steve Crawford -- Tuesday, 16 May 2006, at 4:24 a.m.
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Steve Crawford -- Tuesday, 16 May 2006, at 4:39 a.m.
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Steven Wagenheim -- Saturday, 20 May 2006, at 12:56 p.m.
Re: "Secrets of the Big Dogs" - Anybody read it? *LINK*
Leo Silvestri -- Saturday, 24 June 2006, at 3:27 a.m.
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Steven Wagenheim -- Saturday, 24 June 2006, at 6:49 p.m.
Re: "Secrets of the Big Dogs" - Anybody read it? *LINK*
Jimmy Boyd -- Sunday, 25 June 2006, at 8:49 p.m.
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Steven Wagenheim -- Sunday, 25 June 2006, at 8:53 p.m.
Excuse YOU is more like it..
Pete Egeler -- Sunday, 25 June 2006, at 11:13 p.m.
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Jimmy Boyd -- Monday, 26 June 2006, at 3:53 a.m.
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Steven Wagenheim -- Monday, 26 June 2006, at 4:08 a.m.
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Steven Wagenheim -- Wednesday, 22 November 2006, at 11:18 p.m.
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Leo Silvestri -- Wednesday, 28 June 2006, at 5:54 a.m.
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Jimmy Boyd -- Wednesday, 28 June 2006, at 10:25 p.m.
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Steve Crawford -- Monday, 26 June 2006, at 6:28 a.m.
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Leo Silvestri -- Sunday, 6 August 2006, at 4:19 a.m.
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John Hocking -- Sunday, 6 August 2006, at 6:14 p.m.
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Leo Silvestri -- Wednesday, 16 August 2006, at 5:14 a.m.
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Steve Crawford -- Wednesday, 16 August 2006, at 7:57 p.m.
Re: An Open Letter to ALL Alpha Dogs
Leo Silvestri -- Saturday, 19 August 2006, at 4:57 a.m.
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Leo Silvestri -- Sunday, 24 September 2006, at 4:44 p.m.
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Leo Silvestri -- Thursday, 9 November 2006, at 6:19 a.m.
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Steve Crawford -- Monday, 13 November 2006, at 8:07 p.m.
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Re: Secrets of the Big Dogs: EXCELLENT Read-Sorry, meant Steve Crawford!
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