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Re: An Open Letter to ALL Alpha Dogs - What I have learned from this thread

Posted By: David Parton
Date: Wednesday, 13 September 2006, at 8:48 a.m.

In Response To: Re: An Open Letter to ALL Alpha Dogs (Leo Silvestri)

I read this thread from top to bottom. *applause*

I have read and purchased the big dogs book. I like it. i decided to google it and see what others are saying about it - I found myself here.

I am am making a few bucks with an affiliate program or two - enough to pay my rent and a few groceries. So I am not a "hotshot" just a guy with a humble measure of success.

Here is what i have learned:

My money is best spent elsewhere. Not on big dogs,ffas or Chips. A few solo ads
would create a decent return.So, Alpha Dog, me? No thanks.

Steven Wagenheim is hot tempered, impatient and has not conducted himself with grace in this forum. I have received many of his emails and visited his sites and even considered throwing some money his way to see ifhe could help me out.

His name-calling and ill-mannered ranting has proved to me that he is not the sort of person that I would like to do business with.

The other Steve (Crawford) has not exactly impressed me either especially the way he trashes Leo in his autoresponse. It would be best not to mention him at all. As they say "There is no such thing as bad publicity." He is just generating curiousity about his competition.Being one who likes to get both sides of the story, having received that email I would probably want to know more about this Leo character.

Also, in that email Steve Crawford plugs the other Steve. Nothing wrong with that,right? Except he calls him Steve Wagenstein. Am I mistaken or is his name not Wagenheim? Hmmm.

As for Leo: I give him full marks. He appears genuine, sincere and seems to reply with respect and integrity despite any "below-the-belt" provocation.
I also agree with Leo about Veretekk: A truly awesome resource.

So my final tally is Leo-1, Dogs-zero.
You will be hearing from me soon, Leo

Thank you to everyone that has contributed to this thread you have been a great help.

David

> An Open Letter to ALL future Alpha Dogs

> Hi:

> This is your former Alpha Dog, Leo Silvestri. You can find my story
> at http://leosilvestri.com I am sure that you have noticed all of the
> comments posted
> here. My advice would be to investigate them before you end up
> max out your credit card and have nothing to show for it in a few months.

> Let me explain...

> There have always been and there will always be stubborn people in
> your life who will always want you to follow them to satisfy their ego.
> You can choose to listen to them or to ignore them.
> It is your choice...
> But seriously, will listening to the few who are making a few dollars at
> the expenses
> of many others and ignoring the fact that so many have failed will put you
> forward or will it lead you backwards?
> Some of these people never even bothered to check out what lies on the
> other side of the fence,
> all they can see is what lies in front of them, some of them hides behind
> an email because
> they’re afraid of talking to anyone, most of them don’t even use any
> messengers ID in their email
> because they don’t want to network with other marketers, in my opinion
> they have what is known as tunnel vision.

> How can anyone help you to succeed if they’re not even aware of what
> goes on around them?

> It is not surprising that they have only Big Dogs stuff on their minds,
> is not surprising that they want you to see it their ways at all cost.
> Few people ever take full responsibility for their action in life.
> That is why they’ll never have a true team who will follow them. It
> takes guts and a willingness to speak to be a true Leader.

> All I can say is this. If you let anyone drag you to follow their believes
> you will quickly lose sight of your goals. So keep your eyes fixed on your
> goals while you work towards them day after day...
> Really this is about YOU discovering what you need to do to get where
> you want to go...

> Surround yourself with true winners and positive people who want to help
> you succeed by showing you more options and best of all without going
> broke with something that only works for a few.

> Once you’ll discover the other side of the coin, good things will come
> your way. GUARANTEED!!

> It really is that simple.

> Onward and Forward,

> Leo Silvestri
> easywin1@gmail.com 519-253 8029 (EST)
> 519-255-6003 pag.
> MSN Mess. frankcelli@hotmail.com Yahoo Mess. leosilvestri2004
> IMVITE ID. easywin
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