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Re: An Open Letter to ALL Alpha Dogs - What I have learned from this thread

Posted By: Leo Silvestri
Date: Sunday, 24 September 2006, at 4:44 p.m.

In Response To: Re: An Open Letter to ALL Alpha Dogs - What I have learned from this thread (David Parton)

Hey David,

Thank you for all your kind words. :-)

I really look forward hearing from you soon.

As far as these post I may have won this battle, but winning this war is till far. I've been trying to reach out to many of these people in the past and unfortuanately we still have a lot of work to do.

I did however removed the " For Big Dogs Only" button from my domain home page
to see if I can approach the future victims of this program without stepping too hard on their foot.

My newest Predator team members will now keep on my foot steps by trying to calling them, emailing etc.. and hopefully we'll be able to save some of them from future failures.

It sure is a hard battle though, an European former Alpha Dog once told me that he also tried in the past to contact some of them and to that day he never got a positive response from anyone. His words where " I've never seen such a bad attitude in a marketer like those who are doing the Big Dogs program".

I guess we'll never know why so many prefers to fail rather then take an advice from someone else to look at something different to advertise online, between me you and who ever reads these lines, most marketers I know are making more money by reaching the same people who posts to those CHIP's sites without spending a dime in advertising.

Yet, the majority of all present and future Alpha Dogs will never know this simply because they're brainwashed by those few who are doing good with the program. What a shame that so many have to pay the price of failure because of a few well written lines that their principle no longer apply.

I did sign up for Mr. Crawford autoresponder to see what he writes about me
and sure enough he removed me, well that 's ok though. :-)
Now that I'm using a different name and email address I'm still receiving emails from that autoresponder.

Hardly worth it reding I may add, he only mentioned me in the first letter and as you said all advertisement is good, I wish he would promote me a little more
in his letters series. :-)

Anyways David, contact me anytime for more laughs about these subjects.

Leo Silvestri
easywin1@gmail.com
519-253-8029 EDT
http://leosilvestri.com

I've read this thread from top to bottom. *applause*

> I have read and purchased the big dogs book. I like it. i decided to
> google it and see what others are saying about it - I found myself here.

> I am am making a few bucks with an affiliate program or two - enough to
> pay my rent and a few groceries. So I am not a "hotshot" just a
> guy with a humble measure of success.

> Here is what i have learned:

> My money is best spent elsewhere. Not on big dogs,ffas or Chips. A few
> solo ads
> would create a decent return.So, Alpha Dog, me? No thanks.

> Steven Wagenheim is hot tempered, impatient and has not conducted himself
> with grace in this forum. I have received many of his emails and visited
> his sites and even considered throwing some money his way to see ifhe
> could help me out.

> His name-calling and ill-mannered ranting has proved to me that he is not
> the sort of person that I would like to do business with.

> The other Steve (Crawford) has not exactly impressed me either especially
> the way he trashes Leo in his autoresponse. It would be best not to
> mention him at all. As they say "There is no such thing as bad
> publicity." He is just generating curiousity about his
> competition.Being one who likes to get both sides of the story, having
> received that email I would probably want to know more about this Leo
> character.

> Also, in that email Steve Crawford plugs the other Steve. Nothing wrong
> with that,right? Except he calls him Steve Wagenstein. Am I mistaken or is
> his name not Wagenheim? Hmmm.

> As for Leo: I give him full marks. He appears genuine, sincere and seems
> to reply with respect and integrity despite any "below-the-belt"
> provocation.
> I also agree with Leo about Veretekk: A truly awesome resource.

> So my final tally is Leo-1, Dogs-zero.
> You will be hearing from me soon, Leo

> Thank you to everyone that has contributed to this thread you have been a
> great help.

> David

p.

> David

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Messages In This Thread

"Secrets of the Big Dogs" - Anybody read it? *LINK*
Doug -- Thursday, 20 March 2003, at 1:20 p.m.
Re: "Secrets of the Big Dogs" - Anybody read it? *LINK*
Rick -- Thursday, 20 March 2003, at 3:57 p.m.
Re: "Secrets of the Big Dogs" - Anybody read it? *LINK*
Kim Thomas -- Thursday, 20 March 2003, at 9:26 p.m.
Re: "Secrets of the Big Dogs" - Anybody read it? *LINK*
Don Phillips -- Sunday, 23 March 2003, at 7:13 p.m.
Re: "Secrets of the Big Dogs" - Anybody read it? *LINK*
AFP -- Saturday, 28 May 2005, at 3:06 a.m.
Re: "Secrets of the Big Dogs" - Don't Do it
Virginia Sanders -- Sunday, 29 May 2005, at 4:05 a.m.
Re: "Secrets of the Big Dogs" - Anybody read it? *LINK*
David Hazlett -- Tuesday, 12 December 2006, at 6:05 p.m.
Re: "Secrets of the Big Dogs" - Anybody read it? *LINK*
Waldemar Puszkarz -- Wednesday, 13 December 2006, at 9:29 p.m.
MAKE UP YOUR MIND
Moocha -- Monday, 18 December 2006, at 10:48 p.m.
Re: "Secrets of the Big Dogs" - Anybody read it? *LINK*
dk -- Thursday, 20 March 2003, at 8:05 p.m.
Re: "Secrets of the Big Dogs" - Anybody read it?
Denise -- Thursday, 20 March 2003, at 9:40 p.m.
Re: "Secrets of the Big Dogs" - Anybody read it? *LINK*
Rich Stadnick -- Monday, 19 September 2005, at 6:41 p.m.
Re: "Secrets of the Big Dogs" - Anybody read it? *LINK*
Andre Meixner -- Friday, 21 March 2003, at 5:22 a.m.
Re: "Secrets of the Big Dogs" - Anybody read it?
Doug -- Saturday, 22 March 2003, at 12:49 p.m.
Re: "Secrets of the Big Dogs" - Anybody read it? *LINK*
Deb -- Sunday, 23 March 2003, at 8:51 p.m.
I want to join "Secrets of the Big Dogs" under Andre Meixner!
Jay -- Friday, 12 March 2004, at 1:44 p.m.
Secrets of the Big Dogs is OUT....
John Hocking -- Friday, 12 March 2004, at 2:50 p.m.
Re: I want to join "Secrets of the Big Dogs" under Andre Meixner!
Michael Mayhew -- Friday, 12 March 2004, at 5:44 p.m.
Re: I want to join "Secrets of the Big Dogs" under Andre Meixner!
Mike -- Tuesday, 18 May 2004, at 5:50 a.m.
Re: I want to join "Secrets of the Big Dogs" under Andre Meixner!
Christian Taylor -- Tuesday, 18 May 2004, at 4:07 p.m.
Re: I want to join "Secrets of the Big Dogs" under Andre Meixner!
Mike -- Tuesday, 18 May 2004, at 4:42 p.m.
Re: I want to join "Secrets of the Big Dogs" under Andre Meixner!
joe -- Saturday, 22 May 2004, at 1:54 p.m.
Re: "Secrets of the Big Dogs" - Anybody read it? *LINK*
Kev -- Sunday, 23 March 2003, at 10:29 p.m.
Re: "Secrets of the Big Dogs" - Anybody read it? *LINK*
Greg -- Monday, 26 April 2004, at 2:51 a.m.
Save your money!!
Pete Egeler -- Monday, 26 April 2004, at 3:32 a.m.
Re: Save your money!!
Jeremy Hoover -- Saturday, 28 May 2005, at 4:28 p.m.
Re: Save your money!!
Rich Stadnick -- Monday, 19 September 2005, at 6:43 p.m.
Re: "Secrets of the Big Dogs" - Anybody read it? *LINK*
Michelle -- Monday, 26 April 2004, at 4:52 a.m.
Re: "Secrets of the Big Dogs" - Anybody read it? *LINK*
Chris Kail -- Saturday, 28 May 2005, at 8:37 p.m.
Re: "Secrets of the Big Dogs" - Anybody read it? *LINK*
Son Of Spam -- Tuesday, 20 September 2005, at 5:38 a.m.
Re: It's trash
Christopher -- Tuesday, 27 September 2005, at 11:29 p.m.
Re: It's trash *DNO*
Victor Rodas -- Monday, 19 December 2005, at 6:19 a.m.
Re: It's trash
Victor Rodas -- Monday, 19 December 2005, at 7:03 a.m.
Re: "Secrets of the Big Dogs" - Anybody read it? *LINK*
Steve Crawford -- Wednesday, 29 March 2006, at 5:50 a.m.
It Helped Me Succeed Online
Steve Crawford -- Sunday, 14 May 2006, at 4:11 a.m.
Re: It Helped Me Succeed Online
Pete -- Sunday, 14 May 2006, at 8:38 p.m.
Re: It Helped Me Succeed Online *DNO*
Steve Crawford -- Tuesday, 16 May 2006, at 4:24 a.m.
Re: It Helped Me Succeed Online
Steve Crawford -- Tuesday, 16 May 2006, at 4:39 a.m.
Re: It Helped Me Succeed Online
victor rodas -- Saturday, 20 May 2006, at 12:18 a.m.
Re: It Helped Me Succeed Online
Steven Wagenheim -- Saturday, 20 May 2006, at 12:56 p.m.
Re: "Secrets of the Big Dogs" - Anybody read it? *LINK*
Leo Silvestri -- Saturday, 24 June 2006, at 3:27 a.m.
Re: "Secrets of the Big Dogs" - Anybody read it? *LINK*
Steven Wagenheim -- Saturday, 24 June 2006, at 6:49 p.m.
Re: "Secrets of the Big Dogs" - Anybody read it? *LINK*
Jimmy Boyd -- Sunday, 25 June 2006, at 8:49 p.m.
Re: "Secrets of the Big Dogs" - Anybody read it? *LINK*
Steven Wagenheim -- Sunday, 25 June 2006, at 8:53 p.m.
Excuse YOU is more like it..
Pete Egeler -- Sunday, 25 June 2006, at 11:13 p.m.
Re: "Secrets of the Big Dogs" - Anybody read it? *LINK*
Jimmy Boyd -- Monday, 26 June 2006, at 3:53 a.m.
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Steven Wagenheim -- Monday, 26 June 2006, at 4:08 a.m.
Re: "Secrets of the Big Dogs" - Anybody read it? *LINK*
Terry Allison -- Wednesday, 22 November 2006, at 11:09 p.m.
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Steven Wagenheim -- Wednesday, 22 November 2006, at 11:18 p.m.
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Leo Silvestri -- Wednesday, 28 June 2006, at 5:54 a.m.
Re: "Secrets of the Big Dogs" - Anybody read it? *LINK*
Jimmy Boyd -- Wednesday, 28 June 2006, at 10:25 p.m.
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Leo Silvestri -- Thursday, 29 June 2006, at 1:30 a.m.
Re: "Secrets of the Big Dogs" - Anybody read it? *LINK*
Steve Crawford -- Monday, 26 June 2006, at 6:28 a.m.
Secrets of the Big Dogs - Buy Or Not?
Reviewer -- Thursday, 29 June 2006, at 10:03 a.m.
Re: Secrets of the Big Dogs - Buy Or Not?
Steve Crawford -- Thursday, 29 June 2006, at 8:28 p.m.
Re: Secrets of the Big Dogs - Buy Or Not?
Michelle -- Sunday, 23 July 2006, at 10:21 p.m.
Re: Secrets of the Big Dogs - Buy Or Not?
Claire Koch -- Tuesday, 1 August 2006, at 12:39 a.m.
Tips from the Big Dog Trainer ... Once apon a Time.
John Hocking -- Tuesday, 1 August 2006, at 4:45 p.m.
Re: Tips from the Big Dog Trainer ... Once apon a Time.
claire Koch -- Tuesday, 1 August 2006, at 7:43 p.m.
Re: Tips from the Big Dog Trainer ... Once apon a Time.
Leo Silvestri -- Sunday, 6 August 2006, at 4:19 a.m.
Re: Tips from the Big Dog Trainer ... Once apon a Time.
John Hocking -- Sunday, 6 August 2006, at 6:14 p.m.
Re: Secrets of the Big Dogs - Buy Or Not?
Leo Silvestri -- Wednesday, 16 August 2006, at 5:14 a.m.
An Open Letter to ALL Alpha Dogs
Steve Crawford -- Wednesday, 16 August 2006, at 7:57 p.m.
Re: An Open Letter to ALL Alpha Dogs
Leo Silvestri -- Saturday, 19 August 2006, at 4:57 a.m.
Re: An Open Letter to ALL Alpha Dogs - What I have learned from this thread
David Parton -- Wednesday, 13 September 2006, at 8:48 a.m.
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Leo Silvestri -- Sunday, 24 September 2006, at 4:44 p.m.
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Steve Crawford -- Sunday, 1 October 2006, at 6:50 a.m.
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Leo Silvestri -- Sunday, 1 October 2006, at 9:59 p.m.
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Steve Crawford -- Wednesday, 4 October 2006, at 10:28 p.m.
Re: Alpha Dogs: Make Money Even if No One Joins!
Leo Silvestri -- Saturday, 14 October 2006, at 7:54 p.m.
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Steve Crawford -- Saturday, 14 October 2006, at 10:13 p.m.
Re: Secrets of the Big Dogs Resources
Leo Silvestri -- Thursday, 19 October 2006, at 1:21 p.m.
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Steve Crawford -- Thursday, 19 October 2006, at 10:49 p.m.
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Leo Silvestri -- Friday, 20 October 2006, at 4:59 a.m.
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Steve Crawford -- Friday, 20 October 2006, at 6:59 a.m.
Re: Secrets of the Big Dogs: Stan Stuchinski's Concepts
Leo Silvestri -- Tuesday, 24 October 2006, at 1:45 p.m.
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Leo Silvestri -- Monday, 30 October 2006, at 6:41 p.m.
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A Different Tony -- Saturday, 4 November 2006, at 7:35 p.m.
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Steve Crawford -- Monday, 6 November 2006, at 5:30 p.m.
Re: After a 2-Year LayOff, I'm Back!
Leo Silvestri -- Thursday, 9 November 2006, at 6:19 a.m.
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Steve Crawford -- Monday, 13 November 2006, at 8:07 p.m.
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Leo Silvestri -- Sunday, 19 November 2006, at 4:40 a.m.
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Leo Silvestri -- Friday, 24 November 2006, at 7:08 a.m.
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Steve Crawford -- Sunday, 26 November 2006, at 3:34 a.m.
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Leo Silvestri -- Sunday, 26 November 2006, at 6:24 a.m.
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Steve Crawford -- Sunday, 26 November 2006, at 6:14 p.m.
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Leo Silvestri -- Monday, 27 November 2006, at 6:56 a.m.
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Re: Secrets of the Big Dogs: EXCELLENT Read-Sorry, meant Steve Crawford!
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