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"Liquid Nutritional" products anyone???
Posted By: Carl Haugen In Response To: Thanks Lou :-) (Josh Anderson)
Date: Thursday, 23 October 2003, at 2:33 a.m.
> I see FAP as a tool that can be used in a positive and honest way. I use
> it primarily as a mastermind tool for communication.I joined fag path when it first came out because it said it wasnt an mlm cult. But for some reason MJ wouldnt tell anyone what it was, guess I should have figured out at that point what it was.
Anyone who would join under MJ in any mlm at this point has definitely not done their due diligence.
> Some would argue that networkmarketing is neither honest nor
> ethical and that is thier opinion. I however do feel that it can be done
> in an honest and ethical way.When I have had other people try to recruit me into their cult they have always lied to me.
I had a guy call and tell me that I already had a check waiting for me. How could I have a check waiting for me when I havent even joined the company yet? Well, because this guy calls everyone and tells them that to get them signed up even though it is not true.
Someone else told me he made $2000 his first month and $4000 his second month and he had never sold anything before in his life. But, again that was a blatant lie. I know because I checked up on him without him knowing it.
Im not saying everyone in mlm is a scammer but most are. Mlm sucks in people whose life and/or job sucks and they want to do something else. It usually does not attract highly intelligent professional people. Mlm is full of desperate dreamers who will never make it. These are people who are mostly in it for the money which they believe will change their life, in reality it doesnt.
> FAP is a tool for communication and not a business opportunity. It is in
> fact Free and you do not at any time send money to MJ to join it.Actually it is a "system." I already know it is not a "business" because MJ has left the "internet marketing business."
> One is Life Force International. I use and like the products the company
> has been around for 20 years and has a great commission payout for those
> of us who do the advertising. The Life Force products have been purchased
> under a private label by physicians for almost two decades. Some people
> don't care for these type of health products but hey that's alright
> because they don't have to buy them. We vote with our money.I would like to know how many people actually buy it and not promote it. mlm is not about selling a product it is about signing up other people to sign up other people to do all the work for you.
> The second income stream is TrafficOasis a lead company. I use leads in my
> business and so does every other marketer or store owner in the universe.
> Whether they generate leads them selves or purchase them all business
> owners depend on potential customers becoming customers. Heck we would all
> be unemployed without them.Mlm'ers unemployed? Sounds good to me.
> Now I even know people who use Sea Silver (I don't and won't) to this day
> and love the products. The fact of the matter is that MJ is only a
> SeaSilver distributer. Recently Sea Silver had some legal issues with the
> FTC. Word on the street is that they are resolving those issues and
> correcting thier ways. They will probably continue to sell tons of
> products as well. Why? I guess because people want to use the products.I believe it is due to peoples huge downlines that they would not want to give up not because people actually benefit from the product. If there is any improvement it is purely psychological not physical.
> Now MJ as a distributer would probably
> have a few people who also became distributers upset about the FTC issue.
> Now is that because of MJ's actions or Sea Silver's actions. If MJ had
> developed a website that claimed Sea Silver could raise the dead and could
> not substantiate those claims then he would have some issues with the FTC.
> I am not sure how he marketed Sea Silver but I hope that is not the case.Why does this matter? He promoted two products through mlm that were scams. I would not assign my name to any scams just to make money off others.
> I was a member of TO outside of FAP. I find the leads to be quality and a
> product that I purchase. I also purchased and consumed health products
> outside of FAP. FAP introduced me to a line of health products that I am
> happy to purchase and consume. I also have chosen to become a distributer
> of both companies and am making a fair income selling the products to
> other consumers after only two months.My point was just made. You purchased these products when you found out that you could make money selling it to others. You didnt happen to buy these products before you made money from them.
> I personally have seen the difference between selling the dream and
> selling the product. Just ask anyone who works with me personally. My goal
> is to be direct and honest with my customers.Glad to hear that not all mlmers are scammers. Sounds like you might be one of the few ethical ones. But I still dont like mlm and never will
Carl
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